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NIL is still a broken system
Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:32 am
Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:32 am
We can complain all we want about not having money even though as you can see by how much we’ve spent recently we do…. But in all honesty. NIL in its current format isn’t really NIL these would be the endorsement deals that you see NFL players and other athletes do, but true NIL would be them getting a piece of the revenue from them playing and us watching on tv. The ncaa has tricked us again into thinking this is real NIL but it’s not. These should be side deals and every player should get money from the schools like some type of structure from the nfl.
Coaches already benefit from this money as seen by how much people spend on them and are willing to spend on huge buy outs.
This won’t change until we separate the have and have nots and just make multiple leagues with different budgets. G5 should have their own. P5 should be trimmed and to have their own. It would still end up fine as a matter a fact I believe it would make people more fans of G5 teams separate from their normal P5 team they cheer for normally.
Coaches already benefit from this money as seen by how much people spend on them and are willing to spend on huge buy outs.
This won’t change until we separate the have and have nots and just make multiple leagues with different budgets. G5 should have their own. P5 should be trimmed and to have their own. It would still end up fine as a matter a fact I believe it would make people more fans of G5 teams separate from their normal P5 team they cheer for normally.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 6:34 am
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:00 am to Tigernomics
And it's not fair and equitable
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:03 am to Tigernomics
Some schools are digging their beds with NIL. You will start seeing schools in violation in the near months. Florida State and Florida are at the top for many violations.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:04 am to Tigernomics
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and every player should get money from the schools like some type of structure from the nfl
That’s what is happening. If you get a scholarship to play football in the SEC you get paid a team flat rate. If you’re a lineman it’s bumped up…if you’re a 4 or 5 star you get a special offer.
Every scholarship SEC football player gets paid a stipend though. Likely ~$45k/yr.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:11 am to brettamedee
Gotta think Ole Miss will be joining them soon
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:12 am to Tigernomics
The core issue is the schools themselves take on all the football risk and have zero contractual protection. The collectives risk some cash, and the athlete risks almost nothing.
Add to that, there’s no parity built into the system so the elites take what they want, and the blue bloods raid each others rosters. Chasing money isn’t always what’s best for the athlete. Ask Spencer Sanders. Ole Miss didn’t bat an eye derailing his draft stock so they could have a more competent backup to Dart than Howard- who they also poached.
Add to that, there’s no parity built into the system so the elites take what they want, and the blue bloods raid each others rosters. Chasing money isn’t always what’s best for the athlete. Ask Spencer Sanders. Ole Miss didn’t bat an eye derailing his draft stock so they could have a more competent backup to Dart than Howard- who they also poached.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 7:16 am
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:18 am to Gaston
The legal system will continue to rule in favor of the student athlete getting his due. I think this is the right call. However, it makes the system unsustainable. Free agency with no cap, is just not good for the game. I only see one solution. Revenue sharing. Players will have to have a employment contract with the school. Then terms in the contract will then be binding and enforceable. The agents and lawyers are going to be the real winners.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:25 am to TigerPlate
People are watching because it’s LSU, not because some specific 5 star wide out is playing.
If LSU pays some player 4 million to play, the NFL team that drafts him should owe us money. We developed that player…and that cost us money.
If LSU pays some player 4 million to play, the NFL team that drafts him should owe us money. We developed that player…and that cost us money.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:29 am to Tigernomics
NIL isn’t and was never a system. It was a decision by the Supreme Court that the existing system was unconstitutional. The NCAA fought this tooth and nail for 20 years and lost. They didn’t trick anyone, they would much prefer the old rules.
I do agree the only way anything changes is if the players enter into a voluntary contract, but the only way that doesn’t get dickslapped by the Supreme Court under the same premise is if the players unionize and collectively bargain, which will bring its own problems.
Not saying any of this is right or wrong, but it is what it is.
I do agree the only way anything changes is if the players enter into a voluntary contract, but the only way that doesn’t get dickslapped by the Supreme Court under the same premise is if the players unionize and collectively bargain, which will bring its own problems.
Not saying any of this is right or wrong, but it is what it is.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:33 am to TheDrunkenTigah
True. I’ve never heard of an organization as big and sophisticated as the NCAA ringing in such substantial change with zero planning or framework for how it might work. Maybe their hands are tied, but it’s obvious they are sitting back and letting the market self correct. Until a reasonable system takes root, college football will be the Wild West.
It’s more lucrative for a substantial group of players to stay in college. There’s a player now petitioning for his 9th year of eligibility. There’s even a debate around using big nil money to beat the scholarship limit with walk ons. Something has to give.
It’s more lucrative for a substantial group of players to stay in college. There’s a player now petitioning for his 9th year of eligibility. There’s even a debate around using big nil money to beat the scholarship limit with walk ons. Something has to give.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:39 am to Tigernomics
It's simply a pay for play system. The whole idea of using an athlete's name/image/likeness in exchange for compensation is basically non-existent.
Outside of a University's local market, no one is aware that a respective athlete was paid by Gordon, or Canes, or All Star Ford. And realistically, how much of a bump in business in the local John Deere dealer experiencing after airing a commercial with an athlete.
I guess I've never been one to choose a product based on a famous persons endorsement but clearly those type of people are out there, or else it wouldn't be a business concept.
One would suspect the businesses would not realize adequate benefit from the cost and scale back their involvement, but I'm not sure.
It's clearly broken, but I suspect it'll take 10+ years for it to unfold with a loss of fans, viewers, and donations -- if that even occurs. More likely, fans will just evolve to reminisce in the passion and commitment that once was and be a fan of this NFL minor league that is now currently.
Outside of a University's local market, no one is aware that a respective athlete was paid by Gordon, or Canes, or All Star Ford. And realistically, how much of a bump in business in the local John Deere dealer experiencing after airing a commercial with an athlete.
I guess I've never been one to choose a product based on a famous persons endorsement but clearly those type of people are out there, or else it wouldn't be a business concept.
One would suspect the businesses would not realize adequate benefit from the cost and scale back their involvement, but I'm not sure.
It's clearly broken, but I suspect it'll take 10+ years for it to unfold with a loss of fans, viewers, and donations -- if that even occurs. More likely, fans will just evolve to reminisce in the passion and commitment that once was and be a fan of this NFL minor league that is now currently.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:54 am to Tigernomics
Fueled by transfer portal, both need some guardrails.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:02 am to SA4LSU
It will end with a tiered system of college levels and a collective bargaining agreement between the players, colleges, and the NCAA(or whatever replaces the NCAA).
Until then, there will continue to be frequent sanctions and lawsuits.
Until then, there will continue to be frequent sanctions and lawsuits.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:02 am to Gaston
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People are watching because it’s LSU, not because some specific 5 star wide out is playing.
How much do you think they will watch if LSU starts playing all 2 & 3 star players
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If LSU pays some player 4 million to play, the NFL team that drafts him should owe us money. We developed that player…and that cost us money.
That is kind of nonsense unless there are contracts with clauses specifying some sort of buyout in place. And if another school is willing to offer without that clause, guess where the player will go.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:07 am to Tigernomics
broken to you bc you don't benefit. stop being selfish and petty.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:08 am to PNG Futbol
My concern is, how do you go back from an environment where a true freshman backup in the big 12 is making over 3 million per year? They better figure something out soon. Programs like ole Miss, A&M, and Texas are running the numbers up so high, there may be no going back.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:08 am to Tigernomics
Water is wet, but you can’t live without water
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:10 am to Tigernomics
Who pays the taxes on all this money being passed around?
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:14 am to mdomingue
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How much do you think they will watch if LSU starts playing all 2 & 3 star players
IDK, I don’t have any other college team to cheer for…I didn’t go anywhere else. We seem to recruit just fine without having a team of mercenaries…although I’m sure pay market value.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:16 am to Vacherie Saint
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Ask Spencer Sanders. Ole Miss didn’t bat an eye derailing his draft stock so they could have a more competent backup to Dart than Howard- who they also poached.
Didn't Sanders try to use Ole Miss as leverage to milk more money from Oklahoma State's boosters, only for Oklahoma State to call his bluff and tell him to piss off?
Yeah, you're going to have a hard time getting any sympathy out of me here. He fricked around and found out.
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