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We pay max money to Ingram we're done

Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6678 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:11 pm
He's good every other game. Can't close. Stalls the offense.

Ingram is the weak link on the team.

Not forgiving Zion's FTs. But damn, Ingram...
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52678 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:12 pm to
100%
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14485 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:13 pm to
You'll have to live with Zion’s FT shooting like Milwaukee does Giannis because he makes everyone around him better

With that said, I would definitely be shopping Ingram, but I’m not giving him away cheap.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3186 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:15 pm to
He's the reason the starter suck. It doesnt go any deeper than that. He kills ball movement, refuses to take 3s to help space the floor and his game is based on taking midrangers which is the absolute dumbest shot in basketball.

Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
19010 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:21 pm to


gross
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4147 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:22 pm to
Nobody wants BI for anything of great value.

A 2 point mid range injury prone lane clogger who sucks on D. Hmm, let me give you an all star for that….not.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52678 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Nobody wants BI for anything of great value.
disagree
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14485 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Hmm, let me give you an all star for that….not.

I didn’t say all star, but i also wouldn’t salary dump him.

Just add 2-3 more shooters and maybe a draft pick or two depending on the type of players we get.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9829 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 5:52 pm to
Has he hit his prime yet?
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19281 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:07 pm to
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Can't close
this! Can’t have a max guy that can’t close
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:28 pm to
Middys aren't the dumbest shot in basketball. The middys HE takes are the dumbest shot in basketball.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3186 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Middys aren't the dumbest shot in basketball. The middys HE takes are the dumbest shot in basketball.


It’s not up for debate. Statistically, midrange shots are the worst shots in basketball.

Every time an offensive player takes a mid range shot it’s a win for the defense, whether that shot goes in or not.


To have your game built around the midrange shot like BI in this day and age with all of the data and analytics we have is not only dumb, it’s straight up ignorant. Ingram is playing a math game that he can’t win
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:55 pm to
It is up for debate. If he is taking good midrange shots it's a win for the team. It just so happens he thinks he is Jordan or something from midrange and takes dumbass contested shots.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4529 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:04 pm to
One of my biggest problems with BI is that even when he’s clearly off and we have something else going the opposing team can’t stop, he still insists on getting his shots.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22825 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:37 pm to
Remember when David West was automatic from the elbow?
Posted by DLBalla
Member since Jul 2018
171 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:56 pm to
We know Griffin probably won't trade him, but I have Nets circled as a team that could be interested and give up enough.

Nets don't have their own picks so they can't tank, Bridges and Ingram bonded on team USA this summer, and they need a top scorer.

Some combination of DFS, Claxton, CamT, O'Neale, Dinwiddie, Whitehead or Clowney, and some picks.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6678 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:57 pm to
We don't need all them dudes though.
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
456 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:50 am to
My circled team would be the Hawks. We won't do it, but a trade of Ingram for Okongwu and Murray + a first rounder works. They get a long scoring wing to pair with Trey, we get a big PG who replaces most of Ingram"s scoring and a young center.

I'm more than ok just taking data though. This is first long stretch we've seen the big 3 together. There are some definite issues, but we are on a 48-win pace first half of season and it's ok to give the team time to try to work out the problems. I suspect they are structural and losing Ingram may be addition by subtraction, but I'm ok giving them the season to find that out.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63658 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:43 am to
So is BI now the new JV and the focus of the trade everybody crowd?
I’m not sure we need to do a lot with this roster unless it’s adding a superstar.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111147 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:57 am to
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I’m not sure we need to do a lot with this roster
You've seen something that makes you think this roster can win a title?
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