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re: Maine SoS: I Found Trump Guilty of Thing He Wasn’t Charged with Using a Lower Standard

Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:16 am to
A question for any of you who actually graduated from law school, what does this even mean?
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
1149 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:30 am to
To me, this is just for people to be able to use before it’s struck down by actual courts.

They’ll be able to say something like, “the Maine SOS said this and that.”

To which you can respond, “well that was struck down.”

Then ultimately they would respond with, “yea well she’s right and he’s a facist ya da ya da ya da…”

By then, the brainwashed have had their brains washed and onto the next bullshite. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by GeronimoBernstein
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2016
320 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

A question for any of you who actually graduated from law school, what does this even mean?


I barely know which part of this absurdity is most profound. To answer your question, there are three "standards of proof" in our legal system, preponderance of evidence being the lowest and used only to find civil liability. Next is "clear and convincing" which requires more than "preponderous", and lastly, the highest standard, used in finding criminal guilt is "beyond a reasonable doubt."

But, let's get back to this absolute madness of an absurdity we're all forced to suffer. To begin, the Secretary of State in Maine of any other state is not a finder-of-fact with any business weighing evidence. And that's just for starters.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2324 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:01 am to
It means we have a provision in our Constitution that is open to interpretations that sound unfair. Whether you support Trump or not, there some objective interpretation issues that need to be resolved.

As I wrote in another thread, I don't think it is fair to call a Constitutional Amendment "undemocratic." It was democratically passed by democratically elected representatives and Senators, and then democratically ratified by the states. It renders certain oath-breaking insurrectionists ineligible to hold state and federal offices.

SCOTUS will resolve this. Hopefully.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
992 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 3:30 pm to
Preponderance of Evidence means more likely than not. 51%. It’s the level of proof used in most civil cases.
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