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re: CFB was sooo good in the 2000s

Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:56 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62958 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:56 am to
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The golden age ended the moment Bama was given the rematch

We're approaching 12 years, and LSU fans are still salty their team didn't show up for the national championship game.
Bama lost a "rematch" in '21, just 2 years ago, to Georgia, and that's distant history as far as I am concerned.

Instead of being so sore, how about looking at how 1/9/12 opened up the door to getting away from the one game national championship to a truer playoff
Posted by nugget
Mostly Peaceful Poster
Member since Dec 2009
13825 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:46 am to
Yea every Big10 and SEC school given 2 losses next year without penalty is going to make the season incredibly exciting week to week.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62958 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:19 am to
Yes, who would want to earn one of the 4 byes?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9698 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:26 am to
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12 team playoff


Look at the average margin of victory for the playoff games when it’s only been a 4 team playoff. You mean to tell me you just want to watch more blowouts?

In a given year, there’s rarely 4 teams that are good enough to win it all, there definitely is never 12 teams good enough to win it all.

The BCS was the correct system.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9451 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:41 am to
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Agreed. The golden age ended the moment Bama was given the rematch. It shattered the illusion that every game counted

This is true. We were told the regular season mattered because it was like a playoff and teams could be eliminated. I have no dog in the hunt, but LSU was punished and Bama rewarded for LSU winning the regular season "elimination" game. That showed it was all about politics, money, and greed. It's been going downhill ever since. Opt outs, NIL, rouge transferring, and finally an undefeated FSU getting left out of the CFP finally has signaled the death knell for many fans. "College" football that we've all known and loved is gone forever. It's now minor league pro football, and it sucks big arse.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8513 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:52 am to
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The golden age ended the moment Bama was given the rematch. It shattered the illusion that every game counted.
Huh? The arse whooping in New Orleans didn’t solidify it?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136869 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:53 am to
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CFB was sooo good in the 2000s


Welcome to your "all things were better when I was younger" era.
Posted by Quesadilla Superman
SELA
Member since Aug 2020
722 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:08 am to
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I’m surprised the bubble hasn’t popped. I don’t watch anymore and I was a hardcore fan. It’s hard to believe I’m the only one that has moved on.


You’re not. 2019 was the last time I sat and watched games. Since then I’ve probably checked LSU out a couple quarters a season. I still check T rant & recruiting to see how things are going and will always be a Tiger fan and wish for the best. It’s not anything particular LSU did, it’s the sports as a whole now.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52869 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:10 am to
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We were told the regular season mattered because it was like a playoff and teams could be eliminated. I have no dog in the hunt, but LSU was punished and Bama rewarded for LSU winning the regular season "elimination" game.


Who told you that 1 loss in the regular season eliminated a team from NC contention in the BCS era?? Hell, LSU had 2 losses in 2007, but you are all tore up about 2011? Ok.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136869 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:12 am to
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will always be a Tiger fan


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Since then (2019) I’ve probably checked LSU out a couple quarters a season.


You're not a fan. Hate to break it to you.

Worst part is you will be fully back "in" the next time LSU makes a legit title run.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86584 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:16 am to
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12 team playoff, only allowing 1 D1 transfer per undergraduate, unless exemption of coach getting fired or leaving, moving signing day until February and you can’t declare for the draft until after bowl season would fix everything.


-12 teams is entirely too fricking many. 4 was fine but 6 would be palatable too...if after 13 games you're only ranked 7th frick off. You lost your shot somewhere.
-I'm fine with players transferring as much as they want for whatever reason they want, as long as they have to sit out the following year like they used to have to. That would solve that issue overnight.
-I don't have any issues with NSD being in DEC or Feb. When it was only in February it was annoying having guys that were committed and happy having to wait 3 etxra months for some reason. It only allows more time for tampering and shenanigans. If a guy wants to signin Dec I don't see why it's an issue to go ahead and let em.
-The declaring for the draft thing is a non issue. If a guy wants to leave early he's still going to "opt out" (ie, quit) the bowl game, he'll jus tmake his look at me social media post a few weeks later than currently


What would fix 90% of CFB's issues is to just go back to how things were 5 years ago; fix the transfer portal sitaution and quit with paying players/recruits/whoever as much as you want. I thin NIL is a disaster in general but if it's going to exist it needs to be HEEEEEAAAAVVVVILLLLLY regulated and changed about 100 different ways from what it is now.

Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3023 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:18 am to
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NCAA: you can’t transfer. You can’t pay players. Congress: you can transfer. You can pay players. Fans: frick you NCAA


The NCAA screwed up by overplaying their hand and letting things get that far up the court system to begin with.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16689 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:19 am to
Gambling has downright corrupted the sport.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:22 am to
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This is true. We were told the regular season mattered because it was like a playoff and teams could be eliminated. I have no dog in the hunt, but LSU was punished and Bama rewarded for LSU winning the regular season "elimination" game.


There have been national champs with regular season losses since time immemorial. It all just depends on how the regular season plays out. Bama was fortunate that all the pieces fell into place for them to make their way back into the top 2 at season's end in 2011. Not sure why that would invalidate the system while teams like 2007 LSU would not, but then some of you are irrationally reactionary to anything Bama-related.

Basically this:

Dumbass tRant posters: "Bama getting into the playoff this year just shows how biased and unfair the CFP is. The BCS was the truest way to select a champion, but those days are gone."

Also dumbass tRant posters: "Bama getting a rematch in 2011 just shows how biased and unfair the BCS was. It was so blatantly wrong that they instituted the CFP so that now we can have a true champion."
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50474 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:44 am to
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Gambling has downright corrupted the sport.


The media combined with gambling corrupted the sport.

I never gambled for many personal reasons, but I will start next year. The SEC is very predictable in terms of who they will fix games for, and the media is beyond predictable on who they will promote for the playoffs. Time to start making money on this.

I love LSU, but I love money waaaaaay more.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21999 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:53 am to
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It was better in 1995 when Nebraska ran the option. Or 1985 Oklahoma
I miss the option. Nobody runs the old school tailback option anymore, just that shotgun read option
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21999 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:10 am to
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Hell, LSU had 2 losses in 2007, but you are all tore up about 2011? Ok
LSU got extremely lucky in 2007, but…..

The difference between 2007 and 2011 is that LSU actually won their conference in 2007 and Ohio State was the only power 6 conference champ with fewer than 2 losses. LSU had the best resume of all the 2 loss champs including a 40 point blowout win over the eventual ACC champ. 2011 Bama couldn’t even make the conference title game and somehow gets ranked ahead of a P6 team that had the same record plus a conference title. If another P6 champ had finished 2007 with only 1 loss or if LSU hadn’t made it to Atlanta, Tiger fans would have no argument to have belonged in the BCS title game
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15895 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:42 am to
The soul of the sport was sucked out a long time ago. Like David Pollack on the third floor Middleton library bathroom… glory holed for profit.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10410 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:53 am to
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I don’t watch anymore and I was a hardcore fan.


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Arkansas Fan



Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59158 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:51 am to
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Yes, who would want to earn one of the 4 byes?


You mean the bye that will be earned by playing an extra game?
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