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For younger workers, job hopping has lost its stigma. Should it?
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:14 pm
Dawn Fay, operational president for talent solutions and business consulting at Robert Half, said in an email that the survey also asked hiring managers their top concerns when evaluating a candidate’s resume: 77% named job hopping.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:18 pm to CaddoTiger64
I feel like if you don't change jobs at least every 5 years, you are leaving a lot of money on the table. Your biggest bump in pay will most likely come from changing jobs.
Most employers don't reward "loyalty".
Most employers don't reward "loyalty".
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:19 pm to CaddoTiger64
For the most part. With traditional pensions being rare now, mobile 401ks, layoff culture, and workers having to change jobs to receive pay raises, employers would have to be dumb and foolish to not understand the job hopping mindset.
On the pro side, workers are exposed to more ideas and build a larger network when job hopping.
On the pro side, workers are exposed to more ideas and build a larger network when job hopping.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:22 pm to CaddoTiger64
The only job hopping I worry about is when it’s lateral moves.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:23 pm to CaddoTiger64
Employers have no issue cutting employees when it helps their bottom line, why shouldn't an employee hop around for the highest salary possible?
I think, in general, most people should be at a job for a year and, if you just left your old job after a year, you should probably wait a bit longer to leave your next job.
However, it's entirely circumstantial. Toxic work environment? Low pay? Horrendous work/life balance? Dead-end job? And you're supposed to suck it up not be a "job hopper?" Interesting...
I think, in general, most people should be at a job for a year and, if you just left your old job after a year, you should probably wait a bit longer to leave your next job.
However, it's entirely circumstantial. Toxic work environment? Low pay? Horrendous work/life balance? Dead-end job? And you're supposed to suck it up not be a "job hopper?" Interesting...
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:23 pm to CaddoTiger64
No
Leaving money on the table and ability to get into bigger or better opportunities
Leaving money on the table and ability to get into bigger or better opportunities
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:24 pm to CaddoTiger64
One of the first things I look at on a resume.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:24 pm to CaddoTiger64
Ive traditionally moved from job to job abt 2.5 to 3 years. The last two jobs I was hired at the first job I sent a resume for and while they asked about the moves, I explained. I was hired. Have to do what is best for you. Has not hurt me. Leaving on good terms and dealing with professionals, people understand.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:30 pm to CaddoTiger64
The stigma behind “job hopping” AKA looking out for your own interests because you know nobody else will is nothing more than another manifestation of the codependent relationship Boomers had with their insanely overrated GI Generation parents and bosses back in the 70s and 80s
Click the red arrow if it makes you feel better but you know in your heart that it’s true
Click the red arrow if it makes you feel better but you know in your heart that it’s true
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:35 pm to CaddoTiger64
I was going to criticize Dawn Fay for hypocrisy, but after looking at her LinkedIn page, she’s been with Robert Half for 27 years.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:43 pm to CaddoTiger64
They can red flag these nuts
Anyone is gonna take a job for better pay so i would say if they paid people better, workers would stay
Anyone is gonna take a job for better pay so i would say if they paid people better, workers would stay
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:44 pm to CaddoTiger64
I have 31+ years with two companies that are now Merged into one company.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:52 pm to CaddoTiger64
I’ve met with financial groups who think staying at a job more than 5 years is a red flag for complacency.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:52 pm to CaddoTiger64
quote:psyop intended to keep labor costs down
Dawn Fay, operational president for talent solutions and business consulting at Robert Half, said in an email that the survey also asked hiring managers their top concerns when evaluating a candidate’s resume: 77% named job hopping.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:53 pm to CaddoTiger64
quote:
Dawn Fay, operational president for talent solutions and business consulting at Robert Half, said in an email that the survey also asked hiring managers their top concerns when evaluating a candidate’s resume: 77% named job hopping.
Boomers still think it’s 1975.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 1:58 pm to CaddoTiger64
If you work five years for a company and haven’t positioned yourself for a promotion to a higher paying position then you probably should change jobs. But hopefully you perform better at you next job.
I started at an entry level position and within five years promoted to a supervisory role with good increase in pay. Did that role for five years and promoted into a management role for another good bump in pay. Did that role for three years and had opportunity to move into sales with a separate division within our company. Was lateral in pay but did increase my skill set within the company. Did that for three years and switched to yet a third division within my company back into a mangement role for a slight bump in pay. Did that role for four years and then moved into a higher level management position with another good bump in pay and have been doing that for past four years. I really enjoy what I am currently doing and am making good money. I will likely try to hang into this position til I retire. There is one corporate level position that I have been positioning myself for. If it were to come to fruition great but if not, I and content where I am. 25 years and all at one company.
My point is that every few years I had positioned myself to move up and make more. I didn’t just expect someone to give me more money because I was changing jobs. All this bullshite about what the company owes you. They owe you a paycheck and a safe environment to work in. You owe them 40 hours of your best job performance. As long as you are giving them the work and they are giving you a paycheck then both sides have fulfilled their agreement.
I started at an entry level position and within five years promoted to a supervisory role with good increase in pay. Did that role for five years and promoted into a management role for another good bump in pay. Did that role for three years and had opportunity to move into sales with a separate division within our company. Was lateral in pay but did increase my skill set within the company. Did that for three years and switched to yet a third division within my company back into a mangement role for a slight bump in pay. Did that role for four years and then moved into a higher level management position with another good bump in pay and have been doing that for past four years. I really enjoy what I am currently doing and am making good money. I will likely try to hang into this position til I retire. There is one corporate level position that I have been positioning myself for. If it were to come to fruition great but if not, I and content where I am. 25 years and all at one company.
My point is that every few years I had positioned myself to move up and make more. I didn’t just expect someone to give me more money because I was changing jobs. All this bullshite about what the company owes you. They owe you a paycheck and a safe environment to work in. You owe them 40 hours of your best job performance. As long as you are giving them the work and they are giving you a paycheck then both sides have fulfilled their agreement.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 2:07 pm to CaddoTiger64
I feel like an idiot for not job hopping. I've left a lot of money on the table.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 2:25 pm to CaddoTiger64
I advised my 23yo kid to avoid job hopping. But he’s now moved jobs 3 times in 4 years and doubled his salary. I certainly can’t fault it. Especially knowing how quickly companies would cut him off it were in their interests
He works in cybersecurity which gives him great leverage and he’s played his hand very well
He works in cybersecurity which gives him great leverage and he’s played his hand very well
Posted on 12/23/23 at 2:46 pm to CaddoTiger64
I'm not a job-hopper proponent but what gets lost in this is retention policies / strategies.
A lot of companies don't put enough effort into retaining talent. If good employees are job hopping like crazy I would argue it's more due to companies not incentivizing them to stay rather than lack of dedication.
I'm a good example. It wasnt until I told my previous employer I was leaving that they offered me a substantial raise. At that point it was too late and it more pissed me off that all of a sudden they were willing to almost double my pay once I had one foot out the door. Where was that before?
A lot of companies don't put enough effort into retaining talent. If good employees are job hopping like crazy I would argue it's more due to companies not incentivizing them to stay rather than lack of dedication.
I'm a good example. It wasnt until I told my previous employer I was leaving that they offered me a substantial raise. At that point it was too late and it more pissed me off that all of a sudden they were willing to almost double my pay once I had one foot out the door. Where was that before?
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:03 pm to CaddoTiger64
If employers owe nothing to you, you owe nothing to your employers.
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