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re: Can you actually drown in waders?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:23 pm to OleBallCoach
Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:23 pm to OleBallCoach
yes you can drown but not because of the waders.
panic, weight of other gear(shells, gun etc) or the foolhardy practice of trying to remove waders while in water is what gets people killed.
quote:the water in your waders weighs the same as the water outside of your waders.
the over bearing weight of the water filling the void in your waders
panic, weight of other gear(shells, gun etc) or the foolhardy practice of trying to remove waders while in water is what gets people killed.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:24 pm to BorrisMart
quote:and while you're at it try to remove waders while in the water..... you'll quickly learn that ain't an option.
Yes. I haven't done this but the old timers always say one should jump in the deep end of a pool with waders on to get the sensation and try to get out with a friend there to help. So in a real life event you semi know what to expect.
TLDR: Yes you can. Be safe.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:44 pm to Park duck
Just watched a video on wader safety and they emphasized the wader belt. Going to put mine back on today.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:00 pm to deeprig9
quote:
I almost drowned in waders in a trout stream in north georgia. I slipped into a hole about shoulder deep and the waders filled with water and I had no control over anything and the current took me an uncomfortable distance before it slacked off and I grabbed a branch, and even then, it was a fight for life to get myself actually out of the river.
Do you wear a belt since that incident?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:07 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:YEah, suction is real.
ou're at it try to remove waders while in the water..... you'll quickly learn that ain't an option.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:17 pm to Clyde Tipton
when in the boat headed to the blind the rule is no waders on...pfd's on...
when we ran to certain blinds across deeper water...
when we ran to certain blinds across deeper water...
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:21 pm to Taxman2010
There's a big difference in wading in flowing vs still waters....
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:42 pm to Lonnie Utah
I was a green jeans back in the 90's. Part of water survival week was jumping in the deep end of a 60 degree pool with hip boots, then knee boots, then chest waders.
With the chest waders, if you bend your knees before they fill up, they will actually float you if you can relax and lean back. If they fill up and you are relaxed, you can tread water for quite a while. They will not sink you, as water does not weigh you down in water. We all were under the misconception that you would sink immediately, and found out otherwise LOL.
With the chest waders, if you bend your knees before they fill up, they will actually float you if you can relax and lean back. If they fill up and you are relaxed, you can tread water for quite a while. They will not sink you, as water does not weigh you down in water. We all were under the misconception that you would sink immediately, and found out otherwise LOL.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:50 pm to Lonnie Utah
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the water in your waders weighs the same as the water outside of your waders.
This keeps being mentioned, and it is true. But to swim or maneuver in waders, all the weight of water inside the waders has to move with your legs, and displace the weight of water outside the waders. The more water in the waders, that harder it is.
I always try to make sure i carry my pocket knife to try and cut out of the wader legs, but that's probably not going to happen in a panic situation.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:16 pm to Hobie101
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But to swim or maneuver in waders, all the weight of water inside the waders has to move with your legs, and displace the weight of water outside the waders. The more water in the waders, that harder it is
yes but one does not sink because of this.
and no.. you ain't cutting them loose....
like I have said my 300 yard swim then yes, now.. cardiac arrest.....
but the drop off dunkings in between - calm reaction - I lived, panic I died -with or without waders.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:49 pm to choupiquesushi
The main thing is to not panic. In my ordeal, my parka was making it a pita to swim so my dumbass decided to unbuckle my PFD to take it off. That was a very dumb move and could have been very costly. It shot up into my armpits and I went under again. I had already sucked in a frick ton of water when I was thrown out. Finally laid back and got one buckle fastened. I was pretty pissed at myself at that point. Water was in upper 40s, north wind howling and my buddy had passed me already so I knew I wasn’t getting any help for over an hour. By the time I made it to bank, my legs didn’t work anymore. Even if you manage to stay afloat, next problem is hypothermia.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:07 am to Capt ST
I almost fell over the transom in the gulf stream releasing a snake sailfish. I was alone and the boat was idling in gear...had I gone in there is NO way I would have ever caught the boat. I have not gotten out of my truck at a boat ramp since without putting on a PFD before doing anything else. In cold weather it goes under my coat. At best a base layer, a shirt and the PFD.
I NEVER wear waders in a boat anymore after taking a slipping on ice on the deck of my boat and going in about 3 feet of water. The surface temp was 35 degrees and the air temp was about 40...it was as painful as falling 25 feet and hitting concrete - I know from a industrial accident when I was 23 years old. I was in 3 feet of water of 35 degree water and 40 degree air temps and hitting the water almost knocked me out. It took some time to actually get in the water...it wasn't a bad as jumping in would be...I grabbed the blind and more or less eased in...it still was like getting blindsided on a football field and having the wind knocked out of you. I did not have a coat on but had on a pfd. I never thought to deploy it. I floundered around until I managed to get my feet under me...almost completely panicked for a few seconds until I remembered I had meant to wade the spot and it was only about waist deep. I liked to have never got back in the boat. The front of the boat was about chest high and the gunwales were about halfway between my chest and waist...normall I could have clambered up on the gunwale and swung one leg over and stood up in the boat. Not only were my legs not working but the rest of my body was not working...cold water will do that to you. I finally managed to pull myself up until I could belly flop into the boat. My waders were only about filled to the top of the boot...my lower body was nearly dry....I took off my waders, put on a coat and hunted about 4 hours until the sun warmed the air temps up to about 45, picked up and idled back to the hill. It was touch and go. Had it been in 6 feet of water I do not think I would have ever got back in the boat. Even with a transom ladder...i did not have one...I don't think my arms and shoulders would have worked well enough to get back in the boat. It is damned dangerous. Cold water is like a sledge hammer hitting your entire being. It will almost knock you out immediately....it is extremely dangerous.
I NEVER wear waders in a boat anymore after taking a slipping on ice on the deck of my boat and going in about 3 feet of water. The surface temp was 35 degrees and the air temp was about 40...it was as painful as falling 25 feet and hitting concrete - I know from a industrial accident when I was 23 years old. I was in 3 feet of water of 35 degree water and 40 degree air temps and hitting the water almost knocked me out. It took some time to actually get in the water...it wasn't a bad as jumping in would be...I grabbed the blind and more or less eased in...it still was like getting blindsided on a football field and having the wind knocked out of you. I did not have a coat on but had on a pfd. I never thought to deploy it. I floundered around until I managed to get my feet under me...almost completely panicked for a few seconds until I remembered I had meant to wade the spot and it was only about waist deep. I liked to have never got back in the boat. The front of the boat was about chest high and the gunwales were about halfway between my chest and waist...normall I could have clambered up on the gunwale and swung one leg over and stood up in the boat. Not only were my legs not working but the rest of my body was not working...cold water will do that to you. I finally managed to pull myself up until I could belly flop into the boat. My waders were only about filled to the top of the boot...my lower body was nearly dry....I took off my waders, put on a coat and hunted about 4 hours until the sun warmed the air temps up to about 45, picked up and idled back to the hill. It was touch and go. Had it been in 6 feet of water I do not think I would have ever got back in the boat. Even with a transom ladder...i did not have one...I don't think my arms and shoulders would have worked well enough to get back in the boat. It is damned dangerous. Cold water is like a sledge hammer hitting your entire being. It will almost knock you out immediately....it is extremely dangerous.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:22 am to AwgustaDawg
No dawg in this hunt.
However it seems to me the real problem is getting out of the water once trying to break the surface. I've carried incredibly large rock around underwater but once to the top it'll hurt you trying to go any further.
Not to say they would weight more underwater just that getting out with them (still) on would be a whole different story.
However it seems to me the real problem is getting out of the water once trying to break the surface. I've carried incredibly large rock around underwater but once to the top it'll hurt you trying to go any further.
Not to say they would weight more underwater just that getting out with them (still) on would be a whole different story.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:20 am to MWP
I remember as a kid that place used to be a shitshow. My dad has killed some monster bucks in that place with his bow.
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