re: Ole Miss went and got Chris Beard: 9-0 and trending up

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not have money for baseball or football coaches ?

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I don't think you know how this works.
Football provides big $ to all other sports, plus academics. There will always be money for FB staff.

When the prevailing thought is Scott doesn't care about men's basketball and then you go on to show he did his due diligence for Football and baseball and hiring mulk seems kind of the point no?


So he can make good hires(Which he did) but only when he wants to.

Lol, pooch wins again! Scotty don't miss.

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Pooch it's not that he was a shite hire. He's probably a good coach at some degree. But just by one press conference you can tell he wasn't going to get it done here. LSU basketball needs a builder and a guy with charisma. Compare him to Brady/Wade/Brown and then Trent/Johnny who does he seem more like?

I'm not sure how Scott sat in an interview with him (Which I don't think he even did) and thought yea this guy will have it all turned around. Did we even interview other coaches? Chris Jans? Jerome tang? They were both hot names as well. You never heard anything just yea Matt McMahon chose us over south Carolina and that was it.

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ON PAPER McMahon was not a bad hire. In fact, I'd argue he had a better resume than Jans (Miss. St), Gates (Missouri), Paris (South Carolina), and Golden (Florida). Realistically, his hire was very similar to that of Wade. Both were guys who inherited strong mid-major programs who had a long history of success pre-dating their tenure as HC. Wade took over after Smart, who took over after Anthony Grant went to Alabama, after Jeff Capel. McMahon took over Murray St after Steve Prhom left for Iowa St, who took over after Billy Kenedy went to Texas A&M, who took over after Mick Cronin went to Cincinnati.

But hires have to be more than what is ON PAPER. I think Woodward's strategy is to simply find the best HC with the best resume. That's not a bad strategy at all. But it can't be the only thing considered with LSU basketball because the program doesn't have the cache/prestige of football and baseball. You're often going to be evaluating guys from mid-major schools. That success doesn't always translate to success at a higher level. And AD has to be able to see beyond the PAPER.

When Wade was hired he was NOT Alleva's first choice. Wade had a couple of solid seasons at VCU. But nothing remarkable relative to the success VCU had over several years. What tipped the scales for Wade was the backing of Eddie Nunez (then associate AD at LSU). Nunez played for Billy Donovan at Florida early in Donovan's career, then worked as a GA on Donovan's staff. Donovan was in his early 30's when Florida hired him. Nunez told Alleva he felt Wade (34 when LSU hired him) shared a lot of similarities to the young Donovan Nuenez played and coached for. There is no other program in the US that mirrors LSU more than Florida. Prior to Donovan, Florida had a few high moments in basketball, but was known as a "football school" (just like LSU). Donovan changed everything and made Florida a national power for 20 years. That's why it's not a coincidence you heard Wade say in his very first press conference that he saw no reason LSU couldn't become what Florida had become under Donovan. And Wade was ABSOLUTELY right! If Florida could do it under the right guy, so could LSU. But Wade's hire took a guy who could see traits beyond just the black and white on paper.

The next time LSU had to hire a MBB coach (which will probably be sooner than later), there may be someone available who has a tremendous resume at a (or multiple) power conf. programs. But the probability is there won't. That means elevating someone from a mid-major or an assistant coach from a power conf. program. That's going to take a person who can see beyond the paper to find the right guy.

I beat this drum last year, but will do it again if McMahon has another really bad season. Go get Chris Beard! He's proven himself at three stops already. He immediately turned around UALR into a dominant one-bid league team. He then went to Texas Tech and had them in the Elite 8 (year 2) and National Championship game (year 3). Last season he had a really good, Final Four caliber team at Texas. One that may have gotten there had he not been fired.

He's not at Ole Miss because he loves Oxford or the colors red and blue. He's there out of necessity and, sorry Rebel fans, he ain't staying long. I suspect once Louisville finally fires their HC after this season Beard will be the #1 candidate. And as crazy as this might sound, if Kentucky falls short of their lofty expectations and they get the sense their hated in-state rival is hot for Beard they may (quietly) get in the mix for him. But if by some good fortune a basketball blueblood doesn't come after him, Woodward should load up the truck and sell Beard on the fact that LSU can provide (close) to the resources Texas could provide. Or at least more than Texas Tech where he had great success.

You keep throwing out these hyperbolic names that nobody is suggesting. It leads me to believe that you’re ok with McMahon because you don’t know any better and if I’d throw out names you wouldn’t have a clue who these guys are. I wanted Paul Mills, a coach that comes from Baylors staff who’s already taken Oral Roberts to within 1 basket of the elite 8 and won 30 games in another season there. He has one of the country’s top offenses and top 3 point shooting teams since he’s been there also. This is a guy with an elite pedigree and who’s proven he can win above his talent level as well as play modern basketball even with severe talent deficiencies. He’s just one example and was my pick but there are others like him.

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You keep throwing out these hyperbolic names that nobody is suggesting. It leads me to believe that you’re ok with McMahon because you don’t know any better and if I’d throw out names you wouldn’t have a clue who these guys are. I wanted Paul Mills, a coach that comes from Baylors staff who’s already taken Oral Roberts to within 1 basket of the elite 8 and won 30 games in another season there. He has one of the country’s top offenses and top 3 point shooting teams since he’s been there also. This is a guy with an elite pedigree and who’s proven he can win above his talent level as well as play modern basketball even with severe talent deficiencies. He’s just one example and was my pick but there are others like him.

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Wrong again. Of course I was joking with those two names. But y’all keep repeating it.

You can want someone. And they take a path and play out better or worse than another program. But for you to hang your hat that a) he wanted to come here, b) we wanted him, and c) he would have had the same success or failure as the path that was actually followed is a flawed approach. You don’t know that. No one knows.

Somehow everyone here that loves wade coincidently also knew in a split second during the first interview that mm would suck at lsu and also every other candidate that you wanted” would have wrecked shoppe at lsu. It’s truly amazing. Y’all should definitely start some talent evaluation consultant company. It’s astounding.

Maybe we should take this time to rebuild or renovate the pmac. Mulkeys killing it on the women’s side, and McMahon will be at least one more year. At least if we have plans in place for upgrades, or have started, we can attract a big time coach.

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I don’t think people realize just how cheap LSU is when it comes to basketball. It’s disgraceful

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Wait, I thought we were overpaying for a coach?

You wade lovers really need to get y’all stories straight. Either we do or we don’t spend money when it comes to basketball. It can’t be both.

It’s because he’s so hyper focused on the WW transition to McMahon and doesn’t understand the big picture of what is going on. You never hear guys like that engage in the spending, basketball personnel in the admin (there’s none) or the support system around the program (also none). When you compare the program, leave the coach out of it, to other SEC schools the contrast is startling. When you’re being outspent by a school like Mcneese something is really wrong.