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NCAAF playoff system NEEDS to seed a number of teams that is a multiple of 4

Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:12 am
Posted by DSPurpleandGold
Where it never rains
Member since Nov 2016
70 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:12 am
Think about it. Any number not a multiple of 4 is going to produce seeds given a bye.

One reason given for the “new” 12 team playoff is eliminate the snafu’s like an undefeated team not making it to the championship series.

But, as stated above 4 teams get a bye. Suppose in Round 1 Team A beats Team B. Then in Round 2 Team A plays Team C who happened to have a bye in Round 1. Team A loses to Team C. Now Team A is going to claim they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to rest, heal, prepare, etc….

So instead of getting rid of controversy the “new” system replaces one source of controversy with another.

Why not mimic the “proven” formula of March Madness, but with 16 teams instead of 12? The playoffs will still be played over the same number of weeks so having to extend the season is no more an issue with a 16 team field than with one of 12.

With sixteen teams, 4 more teams get to compete. Is that such a bad thing?

Seems like a reasonable and doable solution. But, nonetheless leave it to the powers that be to bypass an easy solution and go from one crappy system to another.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
Austin
Member since Mar 2013
790 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:14 am to
12 is a multiple of 4 since 12 is divisible by 4.

but I get what you mean.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 6:14 am
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1591 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:15 am to
One reason to like the 12-team playoff is the top four teams are rewarded a bye ‘week’… NFL and MLB reward the best teams with a bye
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78079 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:16 am to
It may be a small controversy when the seeding is announced, but the “we didnt get a bye” argument is alot weaker then the “we didnt get in” argument. I wouldnt feel bad for florida st if they got in but had to play in round 1, at least you get a fricking chance to earn it on the field.

Nfl does byes, does anyone complain about playing wildcard weekend? Think you know that answer.

Plus, what are you playing for as a 2 seed the last week of the regular season in that scenario, not much difference in the 2 seed and the 6 seed, frick that
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2129 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:21 am to
Yea and FSU would have been triggered that they didn’t get a bye, and then got beat by the group of five 12 seed.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3847 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:31 am to
12 is already too many. How about top ten.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89677 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:37 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80200 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:41 am to
FCS has done 16 teams for years. IDK why FBS hasn’t followed suit.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5381 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:44 am to
We don’t need 12. Maybe 8 but realistically 6
Posted by Rizer_J
NW LA
Member since May 2018
272 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:51 am to
I can see your logic. I would go so far as saying that having 4 major conferences, now that the Pac 12 is dead, will help. Having 5 conferences and squeezing 5 into 4 is what has NEVER made sense. Someone always gets left out and controversy ensues.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6581 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:02 am to
Subtle way of saying you don’t get math.
Posted by John cocktoasten
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2018
295 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:08 am to
12 is way too many… hell, I think back to years when you could hardly pick 2. The best solution to me is power 5 champs have to get in. Why have a championship game if the winner doesn’t go? 3 loss West team beats undefeated east team? So be it. SEC champs and they are in.

With the pac 12 situation now though what the hell is power 5 anymore? Regardless, champs of major conferences simply HAVE to get in. They won it on the field.

5 teams (won on field black and white) plus 3 at large beauty contests (gray area) .. this is what the first year in 25 years that you could argue past 4 teams? A one off.
8 is PLENTY.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17887 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:16 am to
It'll be 16 in a few years.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51934 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:18 am to
quote:

With sixteen teams, 4 more teams get to compete. Is that such a bad thing?


Yes
Posted by Chanman8
Member since Sep 2020
120 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Now Team A is going to claim they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to rest, heal, prepare, etc….


the expansion rules state that only conference champions get a bye. Pac-12 is gone so there are only 4 major conferences. Only complaints can come from conference championship losers who make the playoff, but we know why they don't get a bye. Win your conference, get a bye it's that simple.
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
706 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:01 am to
The bottomline is no matter what you do, there will be someone complaining..... no matter the situation, someone will complain they are getting cheated.

Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3308 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:26 am to
You couldn't possibly be more wrong, and I understand it's an opinion so it technically can't be wrong.

However, YOU HAVE GOT to keep the regular season as important as possible. Having teams strive to be in the top 4 to receive a bye does that.

The higher seeded team should host the playoff game in each round until we get to a final "super bowl" type game played at a predetermined site.

No way in hell does LSU want to have to go to ann arbor to play a playoff game. That's why we would strive to be as high as possible to avoid scenarios like that.
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