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re: NCAAF playoff system NEEDS to seed a number of teams that is a multiple of 4
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:08 am to DSPurpleandGold
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:08 am to DSPurpleandGold
12 is way too many… hell, I think back to years when you could hardly pick 2. The best solution to me is power 5 champs have to get in. Why have a championship game if the winner doesn’t go? 3 loss West team beats undefeated east team? So be it. SEC champs and they are in.
With the pac 12 situation now though what the hell is power 5 anymore? Regardless, champs of major conferences simply HAVE to get in. They won it on the field.
5 teams (won on field black and white) plus 3 at large beauty contests (gray area) .. this is what the first year in 25 years that you could argue past 4 teams? A one off.
8 is PLENTY.
With the pac 12 situation now though what the hell is power 5 anymore? Regardless, champs of major conferences simply HAVE to get in. They won it on the field.
5 teams (won on field black and white) plus 3 at large beauty contests (gray area) .. this is what the first year in 25 years that you could argue past 4 teams? A one off.
8 is PLENTY.
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:12 am to billfish21
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One reason to like the 12-team playoff is the top four teams are rewarded a bye ‘week’
The shitty part is that only round one is done on campus. So seeds 1-4 don’t get a ‘home game’ while on a bye. Seeds 5-8 will host round one games on campus. Rounds 2 and beyond are ‘bowl games. I’d rather be a 5 seed to get a playoff game in Tiger stadium. I also wonder how that revenue sharing goes. I can’t imagine the top four seeds get left out of that money making weekend.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:16 am to DSPurpleandGold
It'll be 16 in a few years.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:18 am to DSPurpleandGold
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With sixteen teams, 4 more teams get to compete. Is that such a bad thing?
Yes
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:19 am to Nix to Twillie
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It'll be 16 in a few years
I agree. But I think part of the reluctance is having 8 premier games on in a single weekend. You can’t do all 8 on a Saturday bc you are shooting yourself in the foot. 4 in a single day is a bit much. So it’s almost like round one would need to be played over two weekend with 16 teams are you are going head to head with the NFL which also cuts into the ratings.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:23 am to billfish21
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One reason to like the 12-team playoff is the top four teams are rewarded a bye ‘week’…
That’s why I think 6 is the right number.
Give 1&2 a bye.
But with 12 we should get in every year.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:27 am to John cocktoasten
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8 is PLENTY.
It’s no longer about parity. It’s about being “in”
This board will now implode at the “injustice” of being ranked 13, demand a 16 team playoff, when all it means you are gonna get steamrolled by a top 5 team. But you can tell your grandkids you were “in” I guess.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:28 am to Rohan Gravy
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That’s why I think 6 is the right number.
I always felt that was the maximum size of a reasonable playoff.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:47 am to notbilly
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I also wonder how that revenue sharing goes. I can’t imagine the top four seeds get left out of that money making weekend.
It’ll probably be like the NFL(because that’s all we are now, right?), where the home team just gets to keep concessions. Maybe a million or two in net revenue. Not really much compared to the money paid for participating.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:49 am to Godfather1
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FCS has done 16 teams for years. IDK why FBS hasn’t followed suit.
FBS is just trying to be different.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:30 am to Volvagia
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It’ll probably be like the NFL(because that’s all we are now, right?), where the home team just gets to keep concessions. Maybe a million or two in net revenue. Not really much compared to the money paid for participating.
The CFP Foundation (hereinafter "the CFP") owns all 11 games of the college football play-offs and will receive all proceeds of ticket sales for the 11 games.
In round 1, Seeds 5 - 8 get to host a de facto bowl game at home.
The CFP has total control of the allocation of tickets for all games.
A big bite of the tickets will be allocated to sponsors, advertisers and corporate partners of the CFP, as this is the the ultimate source of the revenue for the CFP (the advertising dollars spent with ESPN, who has the present exclusive contract to broadcast the CFP Play-off games). And this allocation of seats will be prime seats and suites.
The participating schools in each game will be given an equal allocation of tickets to sell to their season ticket holders and fans.
Both teams will receive the same amount of appearance fees for playing in the game from the CFP. Technically, the respective conference (or Notre Dame) get the appearance fees to amass and distribute on a pro-rata basis according to each conferences revenue sharing plan.
Obviously, some of the tickets will hit the secondary markets, but these games will not resemble an average home game (unless a participating team fans "travel bad") as the make-up of the crowd will be more evenly matched.
Concessions and parking will be the revenue stream for the hosting school, but it would not surprise me if the CFP gets a percentage of the profits from concessions and a percentage of parking fees.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:44 am to DSPurpleandGold
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Now Team A is going to claim they were robbed because Team C had an extra week to rest, heal, prepare, etc….
the expansion rules state that only conference champions get a bye. Pac-12 is gone so there are only 4 major conferences. Only complaints can come from conference championship losers who make the playoff, but we know why they don't get a bye. Win your conference, get a bye it's that simple.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:01 am to DSPurpleandGold
The bottomline is no matter what you do, there will be someone complaining..... no matter the situation, someone will complain they are getting cheated.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:15 am to Bacon84
8 is the right number.
3 rounds.
Any team #9 or lower usually has 2 sometimes 3 losses.
3 rounds.
Any team #9 or lower usually has 2 sometimes 3 losses.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:26 am to josh336
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Nfl does byes, does anyone complain about playing wildcard weekend? Think you know that answer.
Are those with byes chosen by voters? If so, there would be complaining.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:26 am to DSPurpleandGold
You couldn't possibly be more wrong, and I understand it's an opinion so it technically can't be wrong.
However, YOU HAVE GOT to keep the regular season as important as possible. Having teams strive to be in the top 4 to receive a bye does that.
The higher seeded team should host the playoff game in each round until we get to a final "super bowl" type game played at a predetermined site.
No way in hell does LSU want to have to go to ann arbor to play a playoff game. That's why we would strive to be as high as possible to avoid scenarios like that.
However, YOU HAVE GOT to keep the regular season as important as possible. Having teams strive to be in the top 4 to receive a bye does that.
The higher seeded team should host the playoff game in each round until we get to a final "super bowl" type game played at a predetermined site.
No way in hell does LSU want to have to go to ann arbor to play a playoff game. That's why we would strive to be as high as possible to avoid scenarios like that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:17 pm to Chanman8
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the expansion rules state that only conference champions get a bye. Pac-12 is gone so there are only 4 major conferences. Only complaints can come from conference championship losers who make the playoff, but we know why they don't get a bye. Win your conference, get a bye it's that simple.
I don’t think the playoffs make a seperation between major conference or not. It’s the top six ranked conference champions get an auto bid. Period. That doesn’t mean they are still the top six seeds.
I promise you there will be years that a team sitting out of the conference champ game will slide in that #4 bid.
They will be likely a one loss team, but as an aside, keep in mind the new SEC rules mean it’s mathematically possible for the SEC to have 3 undefeated teams going into the CC, and one sitting at home.
Btw, this means just being ranked in the top 12 doesn’t mean you are in. For instance, this year Oklahoma would have been knocked off to include liberty.
Also doesn’t mean the top 4 with a bye requires you to be a conference champion (though they typically will be).
Only thing a conference champ gives you is an auto bid. It doesn’t say anything about seeding or bye
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 7:34 pm
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