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I have a lot of Problems With All This....
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:39 pm
I don't know why I feel so strongly about this. Guess it's my damned altruistic streak... But Florida State got hosed here. The ONLY question should have been Texas vs BAMA.... And what ESPN just did/is doing saddling Booger with 4 other commentators apologizing for BAMA is disgusting. This false narrative of "FSU isn't the same team...", Joey Galloway and Kirk and Greg McElroy with the "but look at how the teams have played over the last couple of weeks...."
Let's do that! Let's talk about a BAMA squad that should have been COOKED against a hapless Auburn team. A BAMA team that needed not 1, but TWO miracles to pull that one out.... A BAMA team that beat a Georgia team that was reportedly weakened, but also a UGA team that has trailed in 6 or 7 games this season. I remember a UGA squad that the national voters were reluctant to even place no. 1 because of how unimpressive they looked throughout.... But NOW that it supports the narrative it seems as if BAMA has just accomplished some herculean feat! According to the commentators, Milroe is playing at an "elite" level...really?? 190yds passing, 29yds rushing is "elite"? A 31-yard PRAYER against an unranked opponent (that LSU embarrassed, btw) in the last game of the season is elite now? (and please spare me the "rivalry" nonsense)
FSU IS deserving. More deserving than BAMA, and I'm heartbroken for those kids. I don't like FSU any more than I like BAMA. But, a Power 5, undefeated conference champion? This strawman argument of "The Best Four...." is laughable. BAMA hasn't magically proven to me that they are playing "elevated" football right now. To say they eeked out a win over Auburn is an understatement. Beating a hobbled UGA team after a missed UGA field goal? Yeah.... I don't think there's very much honesty in trying to characterize them as "one of the best 4" other than the idea that if you win the SEC, then you must be, by default?
Let's do that! Let's talk about a BAMA squad that should have been COOKED against a hapless Auburn team. A BAMA team that needed not 1, but TWO miracles to pull that one out.... A BAMA team that beat a Georgia team that was reportedly weakened, but also a UGA team that has trailed in 6 or 7 games this season. I remember a UGA squad that the national voters were reluctant to even place no. 1 because of how unimpressive they looked throughout.... But NOW that it supports the narrative it seems as if BAMA has just accomplished some herculean feat! According to the commentators, Milroe is playing at an "elite" level...really?? 190yds passing, 29yds rushing is "elite"? A 31-yard PRAYER against an unranked opponent (that LSU embarrassed, btw) in the last game of the season is elite now? (and please spare me the "rivalry" nonsense)
FSU IS deserving. More deserving than BAMA, and I'm heartbroken for those kids. I don't like FSU any more than I like BAMA. But, a Power 5, undefeated conference champion? This strawman argument of "The Best Four...." is laughable. BAMA hasn't magically proven to me that they are playing "elevated" football right now. To say they eeked out a win over Auburn is an understatement. Beating a hobbled UGA team after a missed UGA field goal? Yeah.... I don't think there's very much honesty in trying to characterize them as "one of the best 4" other than the idea that if you win the SEC, then you must be, by default?
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:40 pm to TubaSlug
What if...
FSU stomps UGA
Michigan and Washington lose
Texas or Bama wins a crappy NCG
AP #1 for FSU?
FSU stomps UGA
Michigan and Washington lose
Texas or Bama wins a crappy NCG
AP #1 for FSU?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:41 pm to TubaSlug
What he said. It's all bull shite.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:50 pm to TubaSlug
I get what you’re saying bro. FSU got hosed for sure. BUT, if they’re goin w/the best 4 then they got it right. Arguments everywhere, but the bottom line is FSU is NOT the same team w/o Travis. Imagine Joe Burrow having been hurt vs Texas A&M in ‘19. Was all know that with Brennan at the helm, things may have turned out differently, AND LSU would’ve been a COMPLETELY different team. It’s 110% unfortunate and unfair, but Bama would be a 10+ point favorite over a Travis-less FSU in the Sugar Bowl. It’s about the now. Bama MAY be the #1 team right now.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:17 pm to TubaSlug
Screw Bama. Hope Michigan kills them
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:24 pm to TubaSlug
Agreed. FSU got the shaft.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:25 pm to TubaSlug
For all we know, the FSU QB will have a good bowl game and a great 2024 season and people will need to be reminded FSU didn’t get invited to the playoff because their QB wasn’t good enough.
I hope the kid has a lights out bowl game.
I hope the kid has a lights out bowl game.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:26 pm to TubaSlug
Some observations:
-If FSU is punished for struggling in their conf champ game while playing with their 3rd string QB why is Bama excused for needing a miracle to beat Auburn 2 weeks ago after Auburn got stomped by New Mexico St?
-If the Bama win over UGA proved to the CFP folks that Bama has arrived, then why did UGA get dropped all the way to 6th?
-Why isn't Bama penalized for struggling with USF, beating Arkansas by 3, A&M by 6?
-The committee also knows that FSU gets their 2nd string QB back for the playoffs and he has looked better than than the 3rd string true FR. Shouldn't that be taken into account?
-If FSU is punished for struggling in their conf champ game while playing with their 3rd string QB why is Bama excused for needing a miracle to beat Auburn 2 weeks ago after Auburn got stomped by New Mexico St?
-If the Bama win over UGA proved to the CFP folks that Bama has arrived, then why did UGA get dropped all the way to 6th?
-Why isn't Bama penalized for struggling with USF, beating Arkansas by 3, A&M by 6?
-The committee also knows that FSU gets their 2nd string QB back for the playoffs and he has looked better than than the 3rd string true FR. Shouldn't that be taken into account?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:27 pm to TubaSlug
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I have a lot of Problems With All This....
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:36 pm to TubaSlug
I understand the frustration on behalf of FSU. I hate it for them. If Travis was still playing, they are likely in, not Bama.
But, the injury came into play, and, when packaged with other factors, it does weigh them down below Bama. Yes, Bama struggled against Auburn. Same is said about FSU against Florida, Georgia against Ga Tech, and Washington vs WSU that same week. That is what happens in rivalry week. Washington also barely survived numerous games this season, so do we apply that same logic to them and start going down the "WHAT IF" rabbit hole?
The biggest thing I have a hard time with when looking at FSU is their weaker schedule compared to the others. They didn't really beat a marquee team and the combined record of their opponents is sub .500. That is not good. If we want to accept undefeated conference champs as criteria, then let's put Liberty in and take Texas out.
But, the injury came into play, and, when packaged with other factors, it does weigh them down below Bama. Yes, Bama struggled against Auburn. Same is said about FSU against Florida, Georgia against Ga Tech, and Washington vs WSU that same week. That is what happens in rivalry week. Washington also barely survived numerous games this season, so do we apply that same logic to them and start going down the "WHAT IF" rabbit hole?
The biggest thing I have a hard time with when looking at FSU is their weaker schedule compared to the others. They didn't really beat a marquee team and the combined record of their opponents is sub .500. That is not good. If we want to accept undefeated conference champs as criteria, then let's put Liberty in and take Texas out.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:46 pm to TubaSlug
Aren’t injuries just part of the game that everyone has to deal with? Does an elite defense not count for anything anymore? I didn’t hear anyone saying Travis single handedly beat LSU. This is such a scam in BAMA’s favor. They did everything they could to ensure BAMA made it.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:57 pm to TubaSlug
quote:Yeah...it's kinda the nail on the coffin for me.
I feel so strongly about this.
I had forgotten how I felt about the Mulligan Bowl in 2011 / 2012. We learned then the big names will get the nod over any lesser program.
I see people on facebook from my hometown in ACC country commenting and they (not being SEC fans) are now realizing the level of corruption.
From now own, I personally pledge to not pay any attention to (or watch) college football outside of the time it takes to watch an LSU game. I'm guessing there's many others like me.
And that is a real shame.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:39 pm to TubaSlug
What you say about the state of our country? Marxist takeover? Are you heart broken? Do you have your priorities misplaced?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:59 pm to TubaSlug
I think Oregon is better than Alabama. So why not Oregon a top 4 team ?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:11 pm to TubaSlug
FSU struggled at BC & was losing at half to UNA who was DII a couple years ago. Not sure how tgat fits into your melt.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:12 pm to TubaSlug
I guess my thing is ... I don't think I give a frick. I don't see how any of this enhances or harms us, and wtf do I care when we're not involved.
Obviously I get the around the edges concerns, but the passion of these arguments genuinely surprises me.
I don't give a frick about FSU and their problems any more than I care about Bama and theirs. If any of this turns out to directly impact our team or our recruiting well then I'll care.
Obviously I get the around the edges concerns, but the passion of these arguments genuinely surprises me.
I don't give a frick about FSU and their problems any more than I care about Bama and theirs. If any of this turns out to directly impact our team or our recruiting well then I'll care.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:17 pm to TubaSlug
Alabama doesn’t deserve to be in much like 2012. That being said the way they are playing now they’ll win it all
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:51 pm to TubaSlug
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I don't know why I feel so strongly about this.
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TubaSlug
LSU Fan
^^^ That's probably why.
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