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Kids today should be glad they weren’t born in the late 1800’s early 1900’s Orphan Trains
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:34 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:34 am
ThoughtCo.com
Unquestionably, the children being raised today are the most spoiled generation to ever live on the planet.
No wonder they grow up to be such intolerable brats.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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The Orphan Train movement in the United States was an ambitious, sometimes controversial, social welfare effort to relocate orphaned, abandoned, or otherwise homeless children from crowded cities on the East Coast to foster homes in the rural Midwest. Between 1854 and 1929, some 250,000 children were transported to their new homes aboard special trains. As a forerunner of the modern U.S. adoption system, the Orphan Train movement preceded the passage of most federal child protection laws. While many orphan train children were placed with loving and supportive foster parents, some were abused and mistreated. The 1850s were literally “the worst of times” for many children in crowded cities of the American East Coast. Driven by a still-unregulated influx of immigration, epidemics of infectious diseases, and unsafe working conditions, the number of homeless children in New York City alone soared to as many as 30,000, or about 6% of the city’s 500,000 residents. Many orphaned and abandoned children survived on the streets by selling rags and matches while joining gangs as a source of protection. Street-dwelling children, some as young as five years old, were often arrested and placed in jails with hardened adult criminals.
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Once placed in homes, orphan train children were expected to help with farm tasks. While the children were placed free of charge, the adoptive families were obligated to raise them as they would their own children, providing them with healthy food, decent clothing, a basic education, and $100 when they turned 21. Older children who worked in family businesses were to be paid wages. The intent of the orphan train program was not a form of adoption as it is known today, but an early form of foster care through a process then known as “placing out.” the system was not foolproof and not all children ended up in happy homes. Rather than being accepted as family members, some children were abused or treated as little more than itinerant farmworkers. Despite these problems, the orphan trains offered many abandoned children their best chance at a happy life. In bizarre scenes considered unimaginable today, these orphan train adoption inspections often resembled livestock auctions. Children had their muscles poked and their teeth counted. Some children sang or danced in an effort to attract new mothers and fathers. Infants were most easily placed, while children over 14 and those with visible illnesses or disabilities had more difficulty in finding new homes.
Unquestionably, the children being raised today are the most spoiled generation to ever live on the planet.
No wonder they grow up to be such intolerable brats.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:38 am to Revelator
Kids born 60years ago grew up without much. Kids born on third base have no idea how much work is required to get where they are.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 6:39 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids born on third base have no idea how much work is required to get where they are.
We are really doing them a disservice by making things so easy for them in every facet of life.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids born on third base have no idea how much work is required to get where they are.
They have fully bought into the belief that EVERYONE has a right to this standard of living and that "The Rich" only got so by stealing from others. In their eyes, success isn't a sign of hard work, but that someone has malevolently cheated and swindled their way to the top. Are there examples of such things? Sure, but they are not the norm.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids born on third base
Having kids so late in life after scraping and scrapping through my 20s and 30s is going to make things interesting. They see me work, and they do manual labor projects with me.
And, I’m trying to teach them about scarcity and priorities. At very young ages their concept of want was, “We can just go by another one,” if something broke etc.
They are at least grasping the concept of us renting out houses for retirement (as if). “She pays us to live there so we can buy chicken and diapers?” (Actually quote from a 4yo last year.)
And if they mess something up they seem to sort of get that EVERYTHING is expensive (learning from their cheap Scottish dad).
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:06 am to Revelator
Louisiana Orphan Train Museum
Country Roads Magazine Article on Orphan Train in LA
Some of these children came to Louisiana. Originally, most children were placed with Protestant families in the Midwest. But a group of nuns based in NYC placed a lot of children in heavily Catholic south Louisiana.
There is a Louisiana Orphan Train Museum in Opelousas.
Country Roads Magazine Article on Orphan Train in LA
Some of these children came to Louisiana. Originally, most children were placed with Protestant families in the Midwest. But a group of nuns based in NYC placed a lot of children in heavily Catholic south Louisiana.
There is a Louisiana Orphan Train Museum in Opelousas.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:16 am to Revelator
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We are really doing them a disservice by making things so easy for them in every facet of life.
Exactly. One of the most important lessons children should learn is that life isn't fair and learn how to compete, to strive. Eventually, one day life will teach them that lesson. It's inevitable. The better prepared one is the better one can deal with it. Unfortunately, the best lessons are learned the hard way.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids born 60years ago grew up without much. Kids born on third base have no idea how much work is required to get where they are.
Kinda of the mindset I have on immigrants today. None have an idea of what it took to build this nation. The blood, tears and sweet they are taking advantage of and disrespect.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:56 am to Revelator
My great grandmother was on one of those trains. She has a spot in a museum in Opelousas.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:24 am to tx_cajun
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My great grandmother was on one of those trains. She has a spot in a museum in Opelousas.
I never knew about these trains at all until a co-worker told me about his grandfather who was on one of these trains and ended up adopted by a family around Lafayette
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:32 am to Revelator
What was the alternative? No govt involvement at all?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:36 am to Revelator
At least it was some kind of chance for some of them. I ran across this in Concordia Kansas.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:42 am to WWII Collector
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At least it was some kind of chance for some of them. I ran across this in Concordia Kansas.
Of course. I was simply illustrating how hard life was back then, and how easy and coddled kids are today. Heck, you’ve got to have an elaborate birthday party for your one year old are you will be a laughingstock!
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:04 am to Revelator
I have a cousin whose father came down from New York on an orphan train when he was 2 years old. His mother had died from yellow fever when he was a baby and his father abandoned him and took off to Canada.
He had a pretty good life in central La. and was able to go back and reconnect with some family members later in life.
He had a pretty good life in central La. and was able to go back and reconnect with some family members later in life.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:19 pm to Revelator
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Kids born on third base have no idea how much work is required to get where they are. We are really doing them a disservice by making things so easy for them in every facet of life.
Kids also aren't learning socializing skills. I heard a story about a controversy in Fla. where a school district banned cell phones for the entire school day.
For the first time students were seen in the cafeteria actually speaking to each other while eating instead of staring at their phones.
But some moms were upset because if there was an emergency their kids needed to phone home right away for help.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:19 pm to Revelator
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I never knew about these trains at all until a co-worker told me about his grandfather who was on one of these trains and ended up adopted by a family around Lafayette
Not the same, but two of my great aunts were put on boats as kids and sent to Israel after WWII. They were eventually located by the Red Cross in Haifa and reunited with my grandmother who had made it to America. All were orphaned during the war - no one older than they survived.
All lived together or on adjoining property for the rest of their lives.
Anyone born in the west after 1950 has been raised in an incredible time.
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