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BK, LSU should 100% consult Bartoo on next defensive staff

Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27447 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:52 pm
As I pointed out earlier this week, Dave Bartoo and his coaching analytics 100% nailed the porous defensive staff LSU put together.

Bartoo went on with Tigerbait yesterday going into further detail. Tigerbait Interview

Key takeaways:
*Bottom 5 coaching staff in the P5
*Not one above average rated defensive coach
*Bartoo currently consults 5 other SEC programs in coaching hires

And my biggest takeaway is the one star LSU had, Jamar Cain, BK and House, allegedly, ran him off because they didn’t like the technique he taught the defensive line.

Bartoo cites Cain as a 5 star DL coach and Jimmy Lindsey a 2 star, albeit very unfair to grade him this year.

And when you think about the productivity Roy, Wingo, Ojulari had a year ago, I think it’s evident how much better Cain was then what’s in place now.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72571 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
This Bartoo character needs his own board at this point
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
4194 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

I think it’s evident how much better Cain was then what’s in place now.



So you think having a DL coach is better than having no DL coach?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15126 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:56 pm to
He has the grade for his past work. Lindsey was a sub par hire as was the entire defensive staff.

For some being paid 10M a year the defensive staff was horrendous l
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
3167 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:57 pm to
When Cain left the defense has spiraled downhill from top to bottom
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12326 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:03 pm to
CBK needs to figure it out quick. The current staff isn’t cutting it at all.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7928 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

*Bartoo currently consults 5 other SEC programs in coaching hires


which 5?

Vandy, Carolina, Florida, and the Mississippi schools?
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10485 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:09 pm to
It's surprising that Kelly has made such atrocious hires on the defensive staff.

Jamar Cain was the only good hire - and then he replaced him with another below average hire with Lindsey.
Posted by Boboss504
Member since Mar 2022
53 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
If you need a search firm , your in the wrong business
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5836 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Bottom 5 coaching staff in the P5
m

This is true
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3406 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:39 pm to
This was a very interesting.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10646 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:40 pm to
A complete overhaul is needed if we want to be a title contender again. If healthy, I believe Lindsey will get a chance to coach. The rest of the defensive staff has failed miserably.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26762 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

BK and House, allegedly, ran him off because they didn’t like the technique he taught the defensive line
I don't believe this nonsense one bit.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9710 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:06 pm to
We need some 5-star coaches
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19774 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:14 pm to
People keep posting this. Like I asked in a previous thread what did he have them rated in 2022 because it’s essentially the same staff from last year minus the DL coach and they had a top 40 defense in 2022 that was led by transfers and an elite true freshman.

It’s really hard for me to believe Cain is considered an elite DL coach, Venables would have kept him if that were the case. I think even Pete Jenkins mentioned he had issues teaching techniques.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10121 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:14 pm to
And BK is rumored to still keep House. This may be a total shite show on defense for years
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1600 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:59 pm to
How this OP can be downvoted surprises me - even on this board.

These guys can’t coach fundamentals to mid-level talent - much less the few guys we have that are better.

LSU deserves better. Now.
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