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re: UPDATED w names/photos - service members killed in Sat. helicopter crash were special ops
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:41 am to JJJimmyJimJames
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:41 am to JJJimmyJimJames
I worked with CW2 Barnes in Afghanistan. He was 160 SOAR.
All high speed guys. They are the best helicopters crews in the world
All high speed guys. They are the best helicopters crews in the world
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:12 am to EKG
Sadly it doesn't look like the crew Hollywood and the media would put together, so doubt this will get the attention from this administration it should get.
God bless them and their families. And the rest of our boys over there, who still fight for what's right.
God bless them and their families. And the rest of our boys over there, who still fight for what's right.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:21 am to Leotiger725
quote:I believe this is why a lot of people find a training accident to be less likely. These guys are the best of the best and aerial refueling would be something they are extremely proficient at.
I worked with CW2 Barnes in Afghanistan. He was 160 SOAR. All high speed guys. They are the best helicopters crews in the world
Either way it always sucks when you lose guys. Hope their families find peace but losing a child, brother, uncle, father or whatever they were in their short lives is hard.
If it was not a training accident I hope whoever did this isn’t breathing much longer on earth.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:44 am to EKG
Didn’t Biden actually give up the ghost on a bunch of SOF names/information recently? “Accidentally “
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:51 am to RealityWinsOut
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Sadly it doesn't look like the crew Hollywood and the media would put together,
It’s been an elephant in the room for decades. If you want “diversity” don’t go look at a regular infantry unit, and it just gets worse in SOF.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:52 am to Flats
Very true.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:57 am to Boneappleteeth
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I believe this is why a lot of people find a training accident to be less likely.
The best in the world aren’t perfect, and aerial refueling, especially with rotary aircraft, is just dangerous. We typically have the best fillintheblank in the world but we will still have accidents. Remember when we lost a helo during the Bin Laden raid?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:18 am to Flats
While a lot of what you said is correct but come on. I don’t think you can compare an accident in training to the Bin Laden raid.
The Bin Laden raid was done on the lowest of low light nights. I’m sure there was also a combination of brown out and settling with power in that mishap.
I’m not denying training accidents happen but you can still ask questions especially after these last few years and all the lies that have been uncovered.
The Bin Laden raid was done on the lowest of low light nights. I’m sure there was also a combination of brown out and settling with power in that mishap.
I’m not denying training accidents happen but you can still ask questions especially after these last few years and all the lies that have been uncovered.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:27 am to Boneappleteeth
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but you can still ask questions
Sure you can, I just don’t think it’s healthy or accurate, given no other indicators, to immediately jump to conspiracy-esque conclusions.
Look at it this way: Blackhawks are primarily delivery vehicles, and this one just had a crew plus one. IF it was a secret squirrel mission they had already dropped off their customers, so is that something you would want any administration to announce?
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The Bin Laden raid was done on the lowest of low light nights. I’m sure there was also a combination of brown out and settling with power in that mishap.
And I guarantee you they rehearsed under those exact conditions, so it could have just as easily happened during training.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:29 am to EKG
No DEI candidates in this group I see. Probably too dangerous of an assignment for they/them.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:44 pm to HeadSlash
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Wouldn't they have fighter escort?
No. The speed difference alone makes that nearly impossible. The fuel burn a fighter would do turning circles so the Blackhawk could stay close makes me shake my head.
My son had to outrun a mig in their Blackhawk a couple years ago. They had a large enough head start to get to “safe” airspace before the mig could close range.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:41 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Fighter jets fly overhead on missions that include helos all the time. So do AC-130s. Just depends on what the mission is.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:56 pm to Boneappleteeth
They fly in an AO, they don’t fly escort for rotary in they way the question was asked.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:27 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Y'all do know that basically every 'helicopter accident' is just a DoD lie for operations that occur where they should not be, right?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:13 pm to Jack Ruby
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Y'all do know that basically every 'helicopter accident' is just a DoD lie for operations that occur where they should not be, right?
Wrong. Like way wrong. I’ve intimate knowledge of what happened in the last 3 160th crashes as well as what happened with the Med evac crash out of Ft. Campbell earlier in the year. I will get the details behind this one as well.
I can’t for sure about this one, but the others were code for something.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:22 pm to EKG
Rest in peace Night Stalkers
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:07 pm to EKG
Every year it seems like we hear of a military aircraft that crashes and kills everyone onboard while they're flying for training exercises. Are these pilots even qualified to fly? Or are they lowering the standards?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:10 pm to letsgobowling110599
What an unfitting and revolting thing to imply.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:36 pm to EKG
Tough luck our military has with its top special ops people always getting on the wrong helicopters
Not even a little suspicious
Not even a little suspicious
Posted on 11/14/23 at 5:54 pm to EKG
How?
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