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re: Smug PhD gets put in her place
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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She's directly saying teachers make no difference.
No no, she's saying that Teachers only make a GOOD difference and aren't responsible for ANYTHING bad.....
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:08 am to oogabooga68
She's trying, but she really said they make no difference.
She just don't realize it.
She just don't realize it.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So do I, which means we waste a shotload on public education for people who shouldn't be in the system.
Absolutely.
IMO this is how it should go:
1. Public school is not obligatory. At any age or grade level. It's a public service offered but not required. It has standards that must be met to stay eligible to attend.
2. It's not a mechanism to be used for babysitting, welfare distribution, social engineering, etc. It's there to teach academic subjects. You go, learn, and go home. Should take maybe 4 hours a day.
3. It should only exist in its current form (well, it's current form minus the above) through maybe 5-6 grade. Once students have learned to read and mastered basic math, the structure changes.
4. From approximately grade 6 through high school, the only subjects that require face to face teacher to student interaction would be certain STEM subjects. Everything else is available online and students can access it and work through it at their own pace. One standardized national curriculum, everybody knows what's in it. If students want to cheat on online tests, fine. Because there will be a graduation test to graduate (given in person) at the end of the curriculum, so they're only delaying the inevitable.
5. Schools could be MUCH smaller and require MUCH less staff/faculty. In addition to the STEM classes still taught in traditional manner, there could be some teachers standing by to help tutor students having trouble in the online curricula.
6. The graduation test would be like the current SAT/ACT—given in person, changed every test cycle.
Even if taxpayers paid for every student in the country to get a new laptop every three years AND paid for internet access for every student in the country, we'd still save a giant bucketful of money doing it this way in the medium to long term. We'd have to develop the online curriculum and that would be a job, but after that it would only need to be updated every so often and would just run by itself.
And I am convinced that the quality of education and learning (for those who chose to avail themselves of it) would soar far above what it is now.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:56 am to wackatimesthree
Exactly.
We turned our focus on the lowest of learners. Everyone else suffers.
Its time to admit about half the people in this country really are wasting a 9th -12th grade education, and were wasting resources on them.
Public schools are a job creator for adults and day care/day prision for kids. For most of our history, the best of the best have set the standards in the USA, now its the lowest of the low.
We turned our focus on the lowest of learners. Everyone else suffers.
Its time to admit about half the people in this country really are wasting a 9th -12th grade education, and were wasting resources on them.
Public schools are a job creator for adults and day care/day prision for kids. For most of our history, the best of the best have set the standards in the USA, now its the lowest of the low.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:58 am to wackatimesthree
quote:seen that.
One of the dumbest people I have ever met was a double board-certified medical specialist I employed. Not because he lacked intelligence in an academic sense, but because he was emotionally stuck at around age 11.
You wouldn't believe it if I told you some of the stuff he would routinely do.
Several of my wife's colleagues are the same way (although nobody I have ever met was quite as bad as this guy).
I also have one doctor who forwarded me to other doctors when I call him on some of his boneheadedness. I have to keep an eye on this new guy too however he is head and shoulders better..
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:59 pm to oogabooga68
quote:so you have no actual evidence? Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.
My acute observational skills coupled with the inability to be dishonest
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:01 pm to 4cubbies
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Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.
Sweetie, this is an Internet message board sub-forum on a Sports site.
NOTHING on here is remotely "productive"....
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:02 pm to 4cubbies
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Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.
Your denial of who you are is pathetic.
You walk the party line 10000% and not sure if youve ever offered an original opinion.
Why should we continue to put so much money (out of whack with the developed world) into a failed product?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:03 pm to oogabooga68
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Sweetie, this is an Internet message board sub-forum on a Sports site.
Shes flat out lying here. Party line all the way, straight down the ballot.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:what does that have to do with anything? Why not just discuss the topics at hand instead of trying to make everything personal? It’s so tiring.
Your denial of who you are is pathetic.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:53 pm to oogabooga68
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NOTHING on here is remotely "productive"....
So you’re admitting to just shitposting?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:01 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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My dad was a tool and die maker.
I work with these guys daily. Been around enough of them to know…take the best guy in the shop and I guarantee he’s the smartest guy in the entire plant.
None of them give a rats arse about what management has to say either….they know they can’t easily replace them and they could have another job lined up before they left the building.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:17 pm to 4cubbies
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So you’re admitting to just shitposting?
No, I'm saying I'm a grownup who knows the difference between real life and Social Media.
You come off as someone whose real life sucks to the point that you are far too invested in Social Media to understand how silly all this is and as a result, you take the FACT that Public Schools are failing all too personally when people point it out.
I would bet a thousand dollars you're one of those teachers who has engaged in one of those stupid Tik-Tok "Teachers Are Heroes" self-aggrandizing dance videos....
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:18 pm to 4cubbies
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It’s so tiring.
Then hit the door, sweetie.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:20 pm to oogabooga68
quote:I don’t know what these are because I have better things to do than consume TikTok videos. Thanks for keeping updated on what’s trending i guess?
I would bet a thousand dollars you're one of those teachers who has engaged in one of those stupid Tik-Tok "Teachers Are Heroes" self-aggrandizing dance videos....
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:25 pm to 4cubbies
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I don’t know what these are because I have better things to do than consume TikTok videos.
No one believes you, sweetheart....
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:14 pm to 4cubbies
Her PhD is in education.
One if the most worthless degrees there is.
One if the most worthless degrees there is.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 8:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We turned our focus on the lowest of learners. Everyone else suffers.
Its time to admit about half the people in this country really are wasting a 9th -12th grade education, and were wasting resources on them.
Public schools are a job creator for adults and day care/day prision for kids. For most of our history, the best of the best have set the standards in the USA, now its the lowest of the low.
I should say that I don't mind accommodating students who are simply below average intelligence.
When I say standards, I'm mainly talking about standards of behavior and effort.
I think there's a place for students who are not destined to excel in an academic setting and would do better with more practical instruction. Auto repair, woodworking, electrical, welding, plumbing, hairdressing, etc.
So I would not object to students tracking 9th-12th grades through a curriculum like that instead of the curriculum I posted about above. That would increase the cost of education because those pursuits would have to be at least half hands-on, but perhaps we could divert some money currently being spent on junior college programs and replace most if not all of those programs with a really good high school curriculum.
That's the thing. High school used to be considered adequate to prepare an average citizen for the workforce and life in America. Now it's worth very little (because it teaches so little) in the minds of potential employers.
It shouldn't replace traditional college majors like engineering or nursing, but it should be able to prepare a student for a career in welding or several other blue collar trades.
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