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re: Louisiana Bear Season
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:38 pm to jsmoke222000
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:38 pm to jsmoke222000
Bear meat is similar to venison. I wouldn't roast one whole because they look a little weird skinned out
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:38 pm to jsmoke222000
Bear is very good. I have had bear burgers, chili, spaghetti, breakfast sausage, and in a regular rice in gravy. All the bear I have eaten has come from around Anchorage Alaska.
I am putting in for tags that's for dang sure.
I am putting in for tags that's for dang sure.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:39 pm to Hermit Crab
Habitat restoration and land use changes have benefited them greatly. The 23 introduced didn't have that great of an impact. Unfortunately I think tags will be limited to private land in the parishes listed and excluding any NWR or other federal lands.
IF you never seen one in La your not in the right spot. The proper bear habitat is bursting at the seams hence people seeing them in places they have NEVER been in before.
I think they came up with 10 for a couple of reasons:
to avoid litigation
the number may have been number documented kill by vehicles MINUS the number killed by hunters.
Several south LA parishes deserve to be on that list including 3 wma's(but if the WMA is "federal" land NO DICE)
IF you never seen one in La your not in the right spot. The proper bear habitat is bursting at the seams hence people seeing them in places they have NEVER been in before.
I think they came up with 10 for a couple of reasons:
to avoid litigation
the number may have been number documented kill by vehicles MINUS the number killed by hunters.
Several south LA parishes deserve to be on that list including 3 wma's(but if the WMA is "federal" land NO DICE)
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:43 pm to ozktgr
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they look a little weird skinned out
There are people that have never wanted to hunt bear again or eat them after seeing one skinned out. The hands are the worst.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:02 pm to jsmoke222000
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We reintroduced 23 adult female Louisiana black bears and their cubs to east-central Louisiana,
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Six females reproduced after reintroduction and produced 15 cubs.
Interesting that the females reproduced in a new environment without having been provided by male accompaniment on the release. Obviously there were males available in the territory. Bears normally reproducing no more often than every two years makes it even more so.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:04 pm to Hermit Crab
I'm gonna apply. If i had a tag i could go kill one tomorrow
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:11 pm to jsmoke222000
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I've never seen a bear in Louisiana other than at the zoo. Having said that, I don't hunt in the areas that were mentioned.
I've been living in Louisiana for 14 years, and same was true for me til earlier this year. Had one run across the road in front of me on my way to Cypremort Point to go fishing. Suckers are damn fast for their size.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:43 pm to mrcoon
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They brought in bears from Minnesota and Canada and released them here.
They did this with deer in the south in 1970’s bringing them in from the midwest
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:41 pm to Hermit Crab
Ten?
Hell, there are ten in one Union Parish dumpster right now.
Book it.
Hell, there are ten in one Union Parish dumpster right now.
Book it.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:05 am to 257WBY
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Not reintroduced. These are native bears, hence the name Louisiana Black Bear.
The North Louisiana populations are not LA black bears. That was proven with a genetic study by USGS that showed that they shared the same genetics with Minnesota black bears. However, the coastal populations could be distinguished from other bears, and are a distinct population of black bear.
Also, black bears were reintroduced to North LA...from Minnesota.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 5:06 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:09 am to Cowboyfan89
Bears are nothing more than oversized coons.
In this part of the country I wouldn’t even consider them a predator any more than just an opportunist.
In all of nature, there is a place for the brown bear and Grizzly because they an are certainly apex predators in their environment and serve a purpose.
That being said I’ve never liked any of them because they are such opportunists that they will eat their own cubs if hungry or not.
Not many other animals do that. And if they do, they are probably on my short list of animals to dislike.
PS: there are a LOT more Grizzly attacks on humans in the US than you realize. The local news agencies suppress it as much as possible because of tourism and with a little digging you’ll see.
In this part of the country I wouldn’t even consider them a predator any more than just an opportunist.
In all of nature, there is a place for the brown bear and Grizzly because they an are certainly apex predators in their environment and serve a purpose.
That being said I’ve never liked any of them because they are such opportunists that they will eat their own cubs if hungry or not.
Not many other animals do that. And if they do, they are probably on my short list of animals to dislike.
PS: there are a LOT more Grizzly attacks on humans in the US than you realize. The local news agencies suppress it as much as possible because of tourism and with a little digging you’ll see.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 5:16 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:09 am to Cowboyfan89
While true, bears in NE Louisiana were never completely killed out and they live on today. In a few years, it really won’t matter, as the Arkansas bears move into Louisiana and we end up with whatever genetic mix that turns into.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:11 am to mrcoon
Met a freelance outdoor cameraman on a flight once, he said it looks like a human skinned out, but taste great.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:38 am to rattlebucket
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They did this with deer in the south in 1970’s bringing them in from the midwest
We got deer from Wisconsin and Texas. They also moved deer from within the state around. Seems like I remember reading in an article that they brought deer from the Carolina's in as well, but I can't find a source to back that up. Here is a good read: The Great Deer Comeback
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:56 am to 257WBY
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While true, bears in NE Louisiana were never completely killed out and they live on today. In a few years, it really won’t matter, as the Arkansas bears move into Louisiana and we end up with whatever genetic mix that turns into.
The northern bears in Louisiana never were truly unique. They are the same as the Arkansas bears except for the new and true subspecies discovered in Arkansas, White River Black Bear, due to all the DNA research done on the "Louisiana" bears. Our coastal bears are unique but not the ones in the rest of the state. This whole bear thing is more about habitat protection than the bears themselves.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:16 am to 257WBY
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While true, bears in NE Louisiana were never completely killed out and they live on today.
And? The genetic studies show they are more similar to Minnesota bears than St. Mary Parish bears.
Your original comment was that they weren't a reintroduction. Consider the current genetic makeup of that population, the argument could be made that the only reason the bear persisted in North Louisiana is because of the reintroduced bears. Either way, your original comment is patently false--reintroduction was a strategy used in a portion of the range.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:55 am to Cowboyfan89
TRB stands for Tensas River Basin.
“Disregarding the Mississippi, the alien UARB, and the hybridized TRC groups, the only existing true Louisiana black bear populations are those of the TRB and LARB. ”
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“Disregarding the Mississippi, the alien UARB, and the hybridized TRC groups, the only existing true Louisiana black bear populations are those of the TRB and LARB. ”
LINK
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:08 pm to 257WBY
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Not reintroduced. These are native bears, hence the name Louisiana Black Bear.
You know what gene they look at to determine if it's a Louisiana black bear vs an Arkansas, Texas, or Mississippi black bear? The zip code gene.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:28 pm to 257WBY
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Disregarding the Mississippi, the alien UARB, and the hybridized TRC groups, the only existing true Louisiana black bear populations are those of the TRB and LARB
And one (the TRB) was supplemented with Minnesota bears, while the other (LARB) was found to have Minnesota genetics in them.
Apparently the people that cited that information can't read, because it's very clearly stated in a 2014 dissertation on LA Black Bear genetics. But, that doesn't fit their argument that the bear shouldn't be delisted.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:59 pm to Cowboyfan89
Saw 4 today… in the driveway
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