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re: Lets talk about Carr's on field demeanor

Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:48 pm to
I wasted 18 minutes. I wouldnt say they were on the money. Some good points were made. Florio seems butthurt because Carr banned him on twitter. He says so at the 2 minute mark. Another agenda driven media hack

Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:50 pm to
Eh. I agree its a bit biased but hes not wrong either. Carr is deflecting blame on him by putting it on others. It could also explain his falling out with the raiders.
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 1:57 pm to
true. Carr didn't mention the source of the frustration. You can tell on field when he is frustrated with himself. Nobody will point that out though. They harped on the blowups. Frankly, the blowup at Olave was 100% justified and necessary. Captain DA and duputy Pete wont hold him accountable for his lazy play.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Watch the link below


Brutally honest talk there. I get a young rookie making those mistakes, yelling at players, bad interview, but not someone who's been doing this as long as Carr.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:03 pm to
We keep saying this but theres a lot that goes into it. Was Olave even the initial read? Whats the down and distance? Did you communicate to Olave about what your thinking on that play? Again not saying Olave is blameless but this happens on every team with wrs. Its just being heightened with our crap play calling and honestly bad QB play.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:08 pm to
He’s just an average arse QB that’s beyond frustrated with the team and coaches that’s in turn making him play even worse than he already is.
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:12 pm to
Hazy memories of Bobbie Hebert emerged last night.

As did "playing not to lose" rather than "playing to win", but those are even foggier.
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Was Olave even the initial read? Whats the down and distance? Did you communicate to Olave about what your thinking on that play?


Man, none of that matters. There's a play call. Olave has a route that he needs to run on that play. It doesn't matter if he is the last option or the first option. Olave needs to run his route, every route, like it's the most important play of his career. That's what he gets paid to do. Not lollygag down the sideline because he thinks the ball isn't coming to him. Pre snap, all carr needs to do is say the play. He isn't entitled to special instructions or a pep rally to do his job
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:18 pm to
I disagree. All that matters. Maybe if your a shitty qb it doesn’t. This a second year WR not a seasined vet. If anything we should put more focus on why Carr is not communicating and on the same page with Olave- we signed him to be a leader, communicate, be on the same page with his wrs. Its his responsibility as a leader and qb. Hes failing at that miserably.
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:29 pm to
Olave is the second year professional. If he was running a go route based on that play design..... Then his arse runs a go route. Olave absolutely quit on the route. That isn't debatable. Carr is an average QB. He does not have time in the huddle to give direction to every skill player. I don't mean this as a sarcastic comment, But have you ever been in a huddle?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:35 pm to
Yes, and I can tell you a good qb from a bad one very quickly on the way they communicate especially in the huddle. Carr is a seasoned vet and that we gave a lot of money to not just be an average qb but an above average one with great leadership. Again your completely taking the blame off a seasoned vet and leader of your team abd putting it on a secind year WR. Olave not putting full effort on every single play is the least of our problems. Again this happens all the time in every level of football.
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:39 pm to
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Olave not putting full effort on every single play is the least of our problems


That's exactly the problem

Look, Carr is ok. Olave is pouting. He's a typical diva WR. There's blame to go around everywhere. My primary discontent is with Carmichael. The saints have failed in 3 of 4 losses on the last possession of the game on the opponents side of the field. 2 of those 3 were inside 20. 1 of those 3 were from inside the 10
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:44 pm to
Carr is NOT OK. Hes pouting on the sidelines as well. Hes a typical not my fault, lack of leadership qb. Olave is the diva but Carr isn’t? We keep making excuses for him. But Carr is a major problem with this team, more than Olave.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:49 pm to
“There's blame to go around everywhere. My primary discontent is with Carmichael. “

- completely agree here.
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:50 pm to
I'm not just going to keep arguing with you. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm okay with that

This team is fundamentally flawed.. It starts with the coaching staff and trickles down everywhere else. It has good pieces but they're never going to win anything with this staff. They should be able to run away with this division based on the players they have.... This includes the quarterbacks. But he and the rest of the players are trying to put square pegs in round holes because of Carmichaels ineptitude
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:52 pm to
Yup couldn’t agree more on that. I hope we hear DA make changes soon on Carmicheal. If he doesn’t do it after this game, I don’t know if he ever will.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:23 pm to
I think it’s becoming pretty evident that maybe Carr is just a dick and his teammates hate him. Polar opposite of Jameis who admittedly isn’t my favorite QB but seems like a blast to be around.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Lets talk about Carr's on field demeanor


we get it, you want winston back at QB

but winston doesnt know the plays, he never could learn the play book, but he can run for a few yards to get a first down
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:11 pm to
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If he pulled his groin, I can empathize. Did it one time playing basketball. Talk about debilitating. It’s f’n insanely painful. Guy battled. That’s all you can ask for. He’s not a super star player. He’s a good to average qb. When you have a good to average qb with a shite coaching staff, this is what you get


You nailed it in your own way.

I blame the coaches' terrible playing calling and game plan that led to Carr looking like a mediocre QB. So Carr is spreading the pain down the line. Now it's a matter of who will step up to right the ship. I'm hoping it will be the ownership by firing the entire coaching staff. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.


Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:55 pm to
Coaching's fault is a bad offensive design
Carr's fault for not being a better leader. Show frustration but do it on the sideline, we've seen Brees Brady and manning do it. But you gotta go on the sidelines to talk to your dudes.
Olave's fault for lolligagging on routes. Your route opens up the underneath, there's a purpose to every design, just like how some routes began opening up things for taysom as the game went on. You can't loft on routes because that's how turnovers occur
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