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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:14 pm to
@AvivaKlompas
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Video of the moment two hostages were handed over to the Red Cross.

Don’t for a minute think Hamas did this out of humanitarian concern. They slaughtered 1,400 people - mostly civilians - and are still holding 200 people, from babies to the elderly, hostage.

Xwitter w/video
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:32 pm to
@IDF
quote:

War With Hamas
2 week recap:

-6,900+ rockets fired from Gaza at Israel (450+ failed launches inside Gaza).

-1,400+ killed.
-4,600+ injured.
-200+ hostages taken.

-1,000+ Hamas terrorists neutralized, many after infiltrating Israel.
-Dozens of senior Hamas terrorist leaders eliminated.

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Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:35 pm to
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1,000+ Hamas terrorists neutralized, many after infiltrating Israel.


If that number is right then Israel has only scratched the surface. I bet the number is much higher
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:25 pm to
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If that number is right then Israel has only scratched the surface. I bet the number is much higher


I would bet no human knows even close to an accurate number, even Hamas leadership.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:30 pm to
I believe you'd be correct, sir.
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:35 pm to
Peter Zeihan on situation- No WW3

YouTube
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55227 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:48 pm to
@Apex_WW
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President Biden, asked if he wants #Israel to delay it’s ground invasion until they can get more hostages out, says "Yes" - Reuters



quote:

WH Communications Director Ben LaBolt: “The president was far away. He didn't hear the full question. The question sounded like ‘Would you like to see more hostages released?’ He wasn't commenting on anything else.”

Xwitter

Couldn't find/didn't see the Reuters mention of this.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:04 pm to
This is a really long tweet from @GeoConfirmed following up on their initial tweets/comments regarding the parking lot strike. It is worth the read, but I won't copy/paste all of it.

quote:

GeoConfirmed Announcement.

What led to the hospital courtyard explosion (Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital) has been a subject of discussion.

To shed light on our initial view on this matter, we’d like to clarify that our team conducted a thorough geolocation analysis of more than 35,000 videos related to the Ukrainian-Russian conflict through GeoConfirmed. Through this process, we’ve gained valuable insights, notably the importance of verifying claims from both sides involved. We’ve previously debunked official statements based on geolocations.

As the footage of the hospital explosion surfaced and our team was looking into the footage, it became evident that the world was incensed, largely due to communications from Palestinian Authorities and other sources. In a matter of hours, these sources asserted casualty figures ranging from over 500 to 1000 deaths and the complete destruction of the hospital.

Our team has encountered thousands of explosion and bombardment videos. The damage/casualties claims based on the footage we were geolocating did not align with any of the videos we’ve viewed over the past years. Additionally, counting more than 500 deceased individuals would be a task requiring days, not mere hours.

Our team conducted a preliminary analysis based on the information and footage available at that time. OSINT analysis can be inherently time-sensitive, as new and more informative footage may emerge, potentially contradicting our prior analysis. Our intent was to demonstrate that there was no foundation for the initial Palestinian communication and that alternative theories were plausible. We never anticipated that this would gain such widespread attention; otherwise, we would have selected our wording more carefully.

Xwitter @GeoConfirmed
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Don’t for a minute think Hamas did this out of humanitarian concern


I'll say again: I really, really want to know how much we paid for them.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58418 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

WH Communications Director Ben LaBolt: “The president was far away. He didn't hear the full question. The question sounded like ‘Would you like to see more hostages released?’ He wasn't commenting on anything else.”


I haven't watched any of it so this may be plausible but on the surface
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

quote:
Don’t for a minute think Hamas did this out of humanitarian concern


I'll say again: I really, really want to know how much we paid for them.




I'll bet they have a lot of negative things to say about Israel. Only reason Hamas would let them go.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19502 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

If that number is right then Israel has only scratched the surface. I bet the number is much higher


Hamas sent 300 fighters through the wall, other Palestinians groups, and individuals took advantage of the breaches afterwards.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19502 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Peter Zeihan on situation- No WW3

YouTube


A regional war is the most likely outcome, and it has the potential to be catastrophic.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:06 pm to
You just replied to yourself, so are you your own serial downvoter?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35500 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:17 pm to
No, I'm not. Nice gotcha attempt though.

In other news, Chicken and the mod team doing work.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55227 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:16 am to
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Hamas sent 300 fighters through the wall, other Palestinians groups, and individuals took advantage of the breaches afterwards.

Yep, including what sure does appear to be just random Palestinian people looking to get their shots in.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 12:17 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35549 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 3:17 am to
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I'll bet they have a lot of negative things to say about Israel. Only reason Hamas would let them go.
I probably wouldn't call into question the character of American hostages whom we really know nothing about based solely on the fact that they were American hostages whom we really know nothing about but I guess I'm old fashioned.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 3:20 am
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:52 am to
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I probably wouldn't call into question the character of American hostages whom we really know nothing about based solely on the fact that they were American hostages whom we really know nothing about but I guess I'm old fashioned.


I'm not really trying to impugn their character, just looking at it from Hamas' POV and wondering why they let these two go. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it wasn't for humanitarian reasons.

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