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re: Someone younger than me: Explain the infatuation with Taylor Swift?

Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:08 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164430 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:08 am to
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She WRITES her own songs.

Max Martin is co-writer on most of her biggest hits. You know, the guy who wrote pretty much every boy band or Britney Spears hit of the 90s and 2000s. Taylor Swift is just a continuation of that plus social media.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16490 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:08 am to
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Have you never been around a teenage girl? She caters to that crowd and it’s a pretty big market.


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LOL. Her market, while primarily female, extends from 8-9 year olds to 40+.


he was talking about mental age, not physical age. There are PLENTY of 40 yo women who think and act like teenagers.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47943 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:08 am to
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and not figure out how to get into some panties or get a sticky finger on a Saturday night.


The culture has told them it’s assault if they do
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:09 am to
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I mean, she does. It’s a verifiable fact. She has producers and co-writers, of course, but she writes the overwhelming majority of her own music in stark contrast with most other pop singers.


You guys are taken...hook line and sinker by a basic white chick with no arse. Too damn easy. She's the typical pop star, all flash no substance. No matter what you heard in your fan group.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:10 am to
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Look, paw-paw, just accept that not everything in popular culture is meant for, or otherwise needs the acceptance of, old white guys like you.


Truth, she is extremely talented. I like a few songs dont like others, dont care for her social commentary, but understand why she is a draw. Doesn't bother me. Now, this board hates her but again, look at the posts on this board and it is evident you have angry white men in bad marriages dominating here.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:10 am to
Shout Out to The Boat. Coming through with the gospel truth.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10675 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:10 am to
This thread has been live for nearly 15 minutes and has almost 5 pages. This board is mainly middle aged men.

I'm starting to think this is why she is famous. People are infatuated.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6616 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:10 am to
I've never heard a Taylor Swift song and I could not name one.

She does have nice thighs.

The greatest female singer is Linda Ronstadt .

Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:11 am to
I don't get the appeal either but I can see why others do. Her voice isn't bad and she is a skinny blonde white girl with a decent voice. She would have been pretty average in the 90's but singers now have a lot less voice training and there's an even smaller supply of skinny blonde white girls who have musical abilty.

Her EXTREMELY wealthy father financed her career and she makes music for entitled American Millenial White girls who think they're oppressed so I also see why so many people find her irritating.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279108 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:12 am to
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Lacks any ounce of sexuality.


hornball boomers having no clue why people are famous are hilarious
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:13 am to
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I mean truthfully I don’t want my daughter to be in her 30s and still single with a full baseball squad lineup of failed relationships


that’s fair.

BUT, but as a parent of boys would you tell them not to like a superstar QB or shortstop because of off the field dating patterns? Just playing Devil‘s Advocate
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164430 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:14 am to
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Shout Out to The Boat. Coming through with the gospel truth.

Taylor Swift doesn’t have solo writer credits on anything these days. Which says a lot.

She hasn’t had solo credit since her early days when she was young and writing country songs. Which is actually her best stuff.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53927 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:14 am to
It doesn't matter what guys think. There are 30 year old women who say she is the voice of their generation and they probably associate a lot of their growing up and relationship BS with whatever is in those songs. Plus, as a few other people have said, they can now take their daughters to the shows.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22349 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:14 am to
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Oh this thread again.

Look, paw-paw, just accept that not everything in popular culture is meant for, or otherwise needs the acceptance of, old white guys like you.

Pulling the race card in a Taylor Swift thread. Impressive.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11652 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:16 am to
Decent looking, super leftist, and you cannot make sense of what teenage girls like on any given day so there's no point in trying to understand. Her 'i'm the problem' song is decent and that's about it. I hope she makes money and makes girls happy. As long as we don't listen to her for advice on how to run society, I think we'll be ok.

Things that resonate with teens - totally unpredictable. It is what it be.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3519 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:16 am to
She’s not ugly and earns $50,000,000 a year. That’s all I got.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120543 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:18 am to
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ETA and her net worth is probably more than you entire family.


Her net worth is more than the LP
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6102 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:19 am to
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She doesn’t seem to have any of the above. It’s not that she is bad, but I don’t get either why she exploded

Adele and Gaga aren’t sex appeal either, but their talent and sound is fantastic. Spears amd Jlo didn’t have that much of a talent but their sex appeal was off the charts

Swift is none of the above


Her songs are so very relatable to most everyone. For example, Cruel Summer lyrics...there's not a woman between 16 and 60 that hasn't felt like the girl in the song or at the very least had a best friend going through the same thing. U Belong with Me...every high school kid everywhere felt this way at one time or another. Many of her more recent songs have some pretty deep lyrics. Have you really listened to her lyrics? And other songs are just a fun bop.

BTW, I'm in my 60s and went to see her with my daughter in law (no pics!). It was the absolute best show I've ever seen and I've seen Broadway and Vegas productions.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67227 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:19 am to
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Max Martin is co-writer on most of her biggest hits. You know, the guy who wrote pretty much every boy band or Britney Spears hit of the 90s and 2000s. Taylor Swift is just a continuation of that plus social media.


Max only did co-writes and production on 3 of her albums well after she was already famous (1989, Red, and Reputation, all released between 2012 and 2017). He was a co-writer on 4 of her #1 hits, though.

Max definitely contributed to her success, but she’s been a prolific songwriter before and after him.

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doesn’t have solo writer credits on anything these days. Which says a lot.


Actually, it doesn’t say as much as you would think. The way modern music is produced, writing credits are given out to a lot more people involved in the process than they were in previous decades. If a producer pulls a beat or an effect out of their bank to use on a song, the creator of that beat gets a songwriter credit, and the producer often does too, even if it was just layered in for atmospherics and does little regarding song structure and lyrics. This is an industry overreaction to the litigation spawned by the endless ripping off of one-another artists, studios, and producers were involved in during the 70’s and 80’s especially.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28736 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:19 am to
What’s to get? I don’t think you are her target audience.
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Lacks any ounce of sexuality.

Considering the state of things, that’s a plus IMO.
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