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re: Anybody getting a 1/4 or 1/2 cow this fall?

Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:22 am to
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:22 am to
Lamotte Hook Ranch, kelsey Richard is sales rep. Im on 7 years straight getting a whole cow from them. beef seems to get better and better every year. have 5 steaks dry aging right now.

His pastures were once organic-certified and he was reportedly the first LA producer to get organic beef in Whole Foods. he found it to be too troublesome however to keep the organic cert. Richard Lamotte is the brains behind the operation. A true farmer and tinkerer. he brews his own fish hydrolyzate liquid and spreads it on his pastures. an interesting guy who knows a ton about cattle and soil

LINK
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 7:26 am
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6556 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:40 am to
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Ox tail soup was a staple during the fall months when I was growing up. Last time I priced ox tails I left them at the store due to how much they've gone up. I could buy some good steaks for what they were costing.


It's good stuff, and yes, the prices they are charging for tongues and tails these days are crazy. Both used to be inexpensive.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15256 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:50 am to
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It's good stuff, and yes, the prices they are charging for tongues and tails these days are crazy. Both used to be inexpensive.



When I was younger my mom would sometimes send me to Puglia's Grocery Store on St. Claude and Caffin Ave. to get beef bones from the butcher so she could make beef stock.

They'd bundle them up in butcher paper and just give them to me "No Charge".

Last time I was looking for beef bones to make a stock I stopped in Tag's Meat Market, a real butcher shop in Chalmette that still breaks down their meat. Those once free bones were being sold for $1 a lb. and that was over 10 years ago. Not sure what they ask for them now.
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:55 am to
I paid $5.86 hanging weight for 1/4 cow from Cross P livestock in Belville, price included delivery to Houston.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15256 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:12 am to
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I paid $5.86 hanging weight for 1/4 cow from Cross P livestock in Belville, price included delivery to Houston.



On average, the take home weight to hanging weight ratio works out to between 60-65%, so there's a considerable amount of weight loss in the final product between bones and heavy fat trimming, etc.

Quick calculations show if the hanging weight is 300 lbs., you will wind up with 195 lbs. if you get 65% finished product. That brings the price up to $9.01 a lb.
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:38 am to
Yea that's about right. I think it was about 200 lbs delivered. That was for half, which I split with a friend so 100 lbs to me.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6556 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:20 am to
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When I was younger my mom would sometimes send me to Puglia's Grocery Store on St. Claude and Caffin Ave. to get beef bones from the butcher so she could make beef stock.

They'd bundle them up in butcher paper and just give them to me "No Charge".


Our former processor would ask we we wanted a bag of bones. I got them a couple of years and would dump them on the Primo and smoke them. I'd them give them to a friend who had a dog kennel. He'd offer them to customers as a lagniappe.

I could have made stock with them, but I would do that from the tail bones and other bones. I wonder if the current processor would give them to me.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:56 am to
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I wonder if the current processor would give them to me.



Can't hurt to ask is how I see it. Worst they can say is they have a market for them elsewhere.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6556 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Can't hurt to ask is how I see it. Worst they can say is they have a market for them elsewhere.


It's my cow (or my BiL's). They should just say yes. The are getting paid to cut it up and package it.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15256 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:56 pm to
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It's my cow (or my BiL's). They should just say yes. The are getting paid to cut it up and package it.


If you're buying from the processor by the quarter, half or whole, then you're paying for the hanging weight, and that includes bones and fat that can be used for making tallow if you chose to.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56502 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 2:36 pm to
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1/4 gets me about 200
holy shite. A half usually gets you about 200. That thing would be what 1600 lbs?

Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 2:58 pm to
How do y’all keep your 1/4 cow? Deep freeze?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4989 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:32 pm to
So Stexas, I'm not a big fan of grass fed either. But I did find ranch out around Muenster, TX that does grass fed but they have a portion of the herd they are grain finished for the last 3 months or so.
So you get the benefits of grass fed, no hormones, but have the nice fat and milder flavor of the grain. Some of grass fed flavor sneaks through sometimes but it is good stuff.

So I got a 1/4 cow about a year ago and I've still got a lot left. We didn't cook at home as much as I would've liked. So we have to really get after it, I don't want the meat going much longer that a year in the freezer.
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1921 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:58 pm to
That's my problem , space . I kill Four deer a year and a bunch of ducks .
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
603 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:58 pm to
So when someone orders 1/4 a cow is the ox tail, tongue and heart, brain and liver etc extra cost or do you just hope the other purchasers don’t want them? We butcher our own and never have thought to how they sell 1/4 or 1/2 cow when so much good stuff is not “meat”.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6556 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:23 pm to
I can only tell you how I do it with my BiL. We usually split two cows between friends and family. I typically get a 1/4 or, more accurately, half of a half.

I pay my BiL, and he pays the processor, but I know what the processing costs are. We do pay based on the hanging weight. The tail, tongue, heart and liver are not an extra cost, it's just a matter of whether we want them.

My BiL raises the cows on the family farm, so all they eat is grass grown on that farm and hay that he cuts on that farm. For the last 4 months or so, he separates a couple and supplements their diet with corn that he grew on the farm. He has bred them to be 95% or more black angus, though he brought in Chianina bull a couple of years ago, which resulted in some huge steaks (tasty too).

The processor hard freezes it and, depending on what you want, will wrap it in paper or shrink wrap. A half of a half will fill a medium freezer at least half way. I also have a 120qt cooler and it will hold a half of a half but no more.

This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 6:24 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:57 am to
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It’s gone up 50 bucks this year to 850$ for a 1/4 cow


How much beef do you actually get with that?

I've looked around and it seems I can't find anything for less than $9-$10 a pouhd of actual meat you get. And considering it seems like so much of it is ground meat, that's a high price.

I want to do this... what am I missing?
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4958 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:23 pm to
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There isn't a lot of meat on a tail, but it's great for soups and stews.


I love oxtails slow cooked with gravy over rice. My travels have taken me to Indonesia over 40 times with 17 of those trips onwards to Bali, and I love Soup Buntut (They spell it Sup Buntut) which is an oxtail soup. I cook it here in Abu Dhabi when I miss it, as this Cajun cooks it much better than the few Indonesian restaurants here in Abu Dhabi.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6556 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I love oxtails slow cooked with gravy over rice. My travels have taken me to Indonesia over 40 times with 17 of those trips onwards to Bali, and I love Soup Buntut (They spell it Sup Buntut) which is an oxtail soup. I cook it here in Abu Dhabi when I miss it, as this Cajun cooks it much better than the few Indonesian restaurants here in Abu Dhabi.


Never heard of it. Is it anything like this recipe?

Sup Buntot
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
603 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:13 pm to
Why would you buy grass fed when you can buy grass fed for all but the last month or so and corn and grain finished for a month or so? 100% grass fed is liberal environmental propaganda. What exactly is the health benefit per pound of grass fed be grain finished. Or the environmental damage done by a month on grain? The taste is so much better grain finished so Iam curious as to what health benefits or environmental benefits yiu think grass fed gives you. Please advise.
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