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re: Mortgage demand from homebuyers drops to a 28-year low

Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:01 pm to
I've seen some assumable mortgages pop up in my area recently. Never really seen that in the past
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I still want to know how higher interest rates directly translate to “people being fricked”

It was a common refrain around here early last year when rates were beginning to rise that “all these people who bought in the last couple of year” were going to be fricked when interest rates rose. No explanation was ever given as to why but posters banged that drum for a while.


Was the common theme or banging of the drum you mention just based 100% on anyone buying a home at a locked in low fixed mortgage rate at the time absolutely becoming fricked when mortgage rates went up with zero additional variables involved or included in the banging of that drum?
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Was the common theme or banging of the drum you mention just based 100% on anyone buying a home at a locked in low fixed mortgage rate at the time absolutely becoming fricked when mortgage rates went up with zero additional variables involved or included in the banging of that drum?


No additional variables mentioned. There was a lot of “those people are gonna learn a hard lesson” and similar sentiments. No word on what that lesson would be though.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:39 pm to
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There was a lot of “those people are gonna learn a hard lesson”


Well, I call someone having to look at houses that cost 20-30% less to afford the payment a hard lesson.

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resilient economy

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Well, I call someone having to look at houses that cost 20-30% less to afford the payment a hard lesson.


What does that have to do with people who bought or refinanced in 2020 or 2021?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:51 pm to
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What does that have to do with people who bought or refinanced in 2020 or 2021?


I have to imagine it just depends on how many people bought too big of a house with little down and is now way underwater. That equity delta could hurt some people unless this is their forever home.
Posted by TigerCoon
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:54 pm to
anybody who did that deserves it
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:56 pm to
Imagine that...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:03 pm to
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People still listing houses way too high
I think what you really mean is "people still buying houses at higher prices than YOU are willing to pay".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:06 pm to
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I think what you really mean is "people still buying houses at higher prices than YOU are willing to pay".


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Mortgage demand from homebuyers drops to a 28-year low



Sounds like more than just him.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:09 pm to
Big Scrub always has the worst takes
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:21 pm to
And it's gonna get alot worse. If you like that just keep voting democrat.
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:22 pm to
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I have to imagine it just depends on how many people bought too big of a house with little down and is now way underwater. That equity delta could hurt some people unless this is their forever home.


There isn’t a significant population underwater after buying a home in 2020. They would be the exception. Even so, that 2.5% interest sure is sweet.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:31 pm to
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Sounds like more than just him.
Get back to me when we actually have the crash that the OP so desperately hopes for.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11227 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:35 pm to
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And it's gonna get alot worse. If you like that just keep voting democrat.


Of course. But i look for the feds to manipulate the market here soon, to try to drive those rates back down and stimulate the economy before the next election.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:48 pm to
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The high listing prices are likely to be the last things which will adjust as sellers (especially those who paid far too much) are reluctant to take less than they were expecting based on the last decade-ish of increases in value.


I somewhat blame Zillow on this. I know lots of people who've talked about their homes value over the years, by which they mean the estimate listed on Zillow. You then get it into your head that your house is "worth" a certain amount, which always somehow means the highest estimate you've ever seen for it. It is very hard, psychologically, to put it on the market and admit that it's not worth quite that much.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97756 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:04 pm to
Ready for housing market to crash and burn again
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:10 pm to
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people who bought or refinanced in 2020 or 2021?


We refinanced in 2021 and were paying $1400 a month for a 15 year

We had to move. It wasn't just a why not move. We will essentially have to look at starter homes when we should be looking at a last purchase type home. Except the starter homes like what we moved from will cost almost double.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:14 pm to
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There isn’t a significant population underwater after buying a home in 2020.


*Yet
Posted by dlambe5
Prairieville
Member since Jul 2009
637 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:18 pm to
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I love high interest rates. CD’s finally making a difference again.


What rate are you getting? All I’m seeing is 5%. I’m currently getting 4.2% in my saving account without having to lock my money up.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 3:22 pm
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