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re: What happens when what happened in 2020 transpires in 2024?

Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28633 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:52 am to
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You guys pretend the election was legit in order to use it as a referendum against Trump,


I don’t pretend anything. It’s a fact not enough evidence was found to overturn the results in any state.

You’re pretending like that’s not a fact.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59259 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:54 am to
Al Capone wasn’t involved in any sort of bootlegging or mafia-related activities. They never produced evidence for a court to convict him. He just didn’t report all his income and pay taxes on it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4371 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:04 am to
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I don’t pretend anything. It’s a fact not enough evidence was found to overturn the results in any state.

You’re pretending like that’s not a fact.


I'm generally sympathetic to your point of view. However, this rebuttal doesn't sway me much.

It's my understanding that there are strict time limits on presenting evidence to challenge an election. In this case I think there was compelling evidence, but it wasn't gathered until 6 months or more after the election.

The problem is that I think those time limits are in place to reduce the degree of disruption caused if an election ever is overturned, and I get the reasoning on that. If something like that is going to happen you want to deal with it preferably before the candidate is sworn in.

However, the cost of that thinking is that if it takes some time to gather compelling evidence, you're SOL.

It seems at some point our country decided that we preferred to err on the side of reducing instability rather than seeking the truth of an election. We'd rather have a stable but stolen election than the truth producing an unstable situation.

In any case, I view the, "Well, all the courts struck down the legal attempts to throw out votes" not as necessarily being proof that it didn't happen. I view it like a piece of evidence that the rules of evidence don't allow to be presented that, if it were presented, would likely change the outcome of the ruling.

Just like the recent Danny Masterson re-trial.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 8:06 am
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