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This Day in History, 1943. The Slap Heard 'round the World

Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:53 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:53 am
August 3, 1943

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Private Charles H. Kuhl, 27, of L Company, U.S. 26th Infantry Regiment, reported to an aid station of C Company, 1st Medical Battalion, on August 2, 1943. Kuhl, who had been in the U.S. Army for eight months, had been attached to the 1st Infantry Division since June 2, 1943.[12] He was diagnosed with "exhaustion," a diagnosis he had been given three times since the start of the campaign. From the aid station, he was evacuated to a medical company and given sodium amytal. Notes in his medical chart indicated "psychoneurosis anxiety state, moderately severe (soldier has been twice before in hospital within ten days. He can't take it at the front, evidently. He is repeatedly returned.)"[13] Kuhl was transferred from the aid station to the 15th Evacuation Hospital near Nicosia for further evaluation.[13]

Patton arrived at the hospital the same day, accompanied by a number of medical officers, as part of his tour of the U.S. II Corps troops. He spoke to some patients in the hospital, commending the physically wounded.[13] He then approached Kuhl, who did not appear to be physically injured.[14] Kuhl was sitting slouched on a stool midway through a tent ward filled with injured soldiers. When Patton asked Kuhl where he was hurt, Kuhl reportedly shrugged and replied that he was "nervous" rather than wounded, adding, "I guess I can't take it."[15] Patton "immediately flared up,"[13] slapped Kuhl across the chin with his gloves, then grabbed him by the collar and dragged him to the tent entrance. He shoved him out of the tent with a kick to his backside. Yelling "Don't admit this son of a bitch,"[15] Patton demanded that Kuhl be sent back to the front, adding, "You hear me, you gutless bastard? You're going back to the front."[15]




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Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:55 am to
What a dick.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:57 am to
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What a dick.



well, he was right, you know
Posted by 19
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:23 am to
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back to the front

You coward
You servant
You blind man
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:50 am to
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You coward You servant You blind man


“You will do
What I say
When I say”
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:52 am to
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"I guess I can't take it."
And yet all of his brothers were expected to.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:53 am to
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The Slap Heard 'round the World


Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:00 pm to
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And yet all of his brothers were expected to.




I've read Robin Olds book(a few times,) he said the bravest man he ever saw was a guy in his WWII squadron that everyone else thought was a coward, the guy was convinced he was going to die every time he would fly a mission, would write a farewell letter to his wife before each mission and cry himself to sleep, but the guy never tried to duck his duty, would go out and fly every mission fangs out and was apparently a badass fighter pilot
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15373 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:04 pm to
I find it stunningly stupid that they sanctioned one of the best combat Generals of WWII over slapping a guy he considered a "coward" while visiting a military hospital.

The best thing they finally did was put the guy back into the action and let him lead his army through Europe to help facilitate the end of the war.


frick, even the Germans thought the U.S. powers that be pretty damn stupid for sanctioning Patton like they did.

This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22402 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:07 pm to
I'm certain Pvt. Kuhl died that day, regardless of what happened afterwards

Sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, and he don't have to like it
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
1472 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:07 pm to
The American Public and Media always take the opportunity to be sanctimonious and self righteous!!!
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15373 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm certain Pvt. Kuhl died that day, regardless of what happened afterw



Kuhl survived the war and died of a heart attack in 71.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7158 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Kuhl was transferred from the aid station to the 15th Evacuation Hospital near Nicosia for further evaluation.


In my collection I have the 1943 Christmas Day menu for this hospital...

LINK

This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:19 pm to
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I'm certain Pvt. Kuhl died that day, regardless of what happened afterw



Kuhl survived the war and died of a heart attack in 71.



that slap may have been just the kick in the arse he needed
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:24 pm to
How far the military has fallen from those days.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11150 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:27 pm to
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In my collection I have the 1943 Christmas Day menu for this hospital...



Man that is awesome
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9865 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:29 pm to
OLD BLOOD AND GUTS

My uncle told me a story about Patton. During the Louisiana Maneuvers, he would stop by the Many drugstore (Sabine Parish) in the late afternoon and pickup up a bottle of alcohol.

My uncle was a clerk and said when he came through the front door with his pearl handled pistols, he wanted to hide.

One of my relatives hosted Patton and Ike for dinner during this time.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
874 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:30 pm to
Patton got results and scared the shite out of anyone he faced. While what he did to Kuhl wasn't condoned it probably raised the morale of every soldier in that hospital who was seriously wounded FROM BATTLE. Sure he had an ego, was 100% Alpha and was NOT a politician. He was one of the greatest Generals we've ever had and was 100% all in for America. He and Trump would have gotten along bigly! He would have had no use for Biden or Obama.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:31 pm to
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pearl handled pistols,


“Son, only a pimp in a Louisiana whore- house carries pearl-handled revolvers. These are ivory.” The quote actually belongs to Army LTG George S Patton, responding to a reporter during World War II, who asked about his “pearl handled” revolver.Oct 18, 2020
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9865 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:34 pm to

“Son, only a pimp in a Louisiana whore- house carries pearl-handled revolvers. These are ivory.”
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Son, I stand corrected. Ivory handled!
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