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re: Which past LSU team had best chance vs 2019

Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:13 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:13 am to
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And how'd that work out for the Heisman trophy winner....with his 154 total yards of offense in the championship game?

Inferior QB talent and vastly inferior scheme.

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if you're trying to convince me that Spears/Williams/Lavalais/Hill are somehow not that good on the DL,

The 2 edges were solid at pass rushing but were not that good at pass rushing. They were 2-way guys who were much better against the run than rushing the passer. That 2-way game is what made them elite, in an era where stopping the run was more important.

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They proved themselves in college as well as the NFL.

Spears and Hill never proved themselves as any sort of plus pass rusher in the NFL.

Both were immediately moved to DE in a 3-4, 2-gap scheme.

Spears had 10 career sacks. Hill only got like 2 years but barely played and certainly was not anywhere near elite on the edge (he didn't even really play the edge).
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:17 am to
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The 2 edges were solid at pass rushing but were not that good at pass rushing.


That starting D-Line alone combined for 23 sacks and 46 TFLs. You're just arguing from nothing but self-authority. I thought you were a data person.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:57 am to
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Inferior QB talent and vastly inferior scheme.



the 2003 and 2019 team played in two different eras of football. That oklahoma offense was considered at that time one of the best of all time, and they were demolished by LSU. comparing the two exactly how they played in their era is difficult to do. the point im making is that the talent of the 2003 team, with the coaching of the 2019 game, would be the most competitive defense to beat 2019.
hers was more of what they simply did for that team.


what the 2003 line could do was provide pressure up the middle and contain the pocket. When Burrow got outside the pocket, it was almost an automatic big play or TD. No college team was going to get to Burrow enough to confuse him. The best chance would have been to make him stay in the pocket, which sounds crazy to do, but if you can get pressure up the middle, which Lavalais and Williams would absolutely do, and then the ends keep him in the pocket, then I think that's the best way to beat him.
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