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re: DAT 7/31: Indians (Syndergaard) @ Astros (France) - 7:10ct - Trade Deadline Edition
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:55 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:55 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Whatever we do, I just want it to cost Crane money more than it costs the Astros prospects
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:55 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I just don't see JV coming back being a fit for either side.
He struggled through the playoffs to put in a WS win, barely, to his resume'
He's not the kinda guy to swallow his pride on any contractual obligations, and I knew that Mets deal had trainwreck written all over it.
Sure we could use the arm in the rotation, but when we need the playoff production, at what cost do we take the chance he can even show up, and that's even assuming he's healthy
He struggled through the playoffs to put in a WS win, barely, to his resume'
He's not the kinda guy to swallow his pride on any contractual obligations, and I knew that Mets deal had trainwreck written all over it.
Sure we could use the arm in the rotation, but when we need the playoff production, at what cost do we take the chance he can even show up, and that's even assuming he's healthy
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:05 pm to wahoocs
Well, looks like nobody wants to hear that, but looking at it objectively from Crane and/or Brown's perspective, I'll die on that hill.
Won't be disappointed if they can get something done.
At least not until it doesn't pan out
Won't be disappointed if they can get something done.
At least not until it doesn't pan out
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:10 pm to 5 Deep
Sorry for your loss. Let's win tonight for Bidge!
Also give me GOATlander back. Would love to see it.
Also give me GOATlander back. Would love to see it.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:22 pm to wahoocs
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Sure we could use the arm in the rotation, but when we need the playoff production, at what cost do we take the chance he can even show up, and that's even assuming he's healthy
A few reasons for bringing JV over:
1) He didn’t start his first game this year until June 8. He shouldn’t be fatigued.
2) His ERA has been steadily shrinking since that first start. It’s 3.15 now, compare that to our current starters.
3) Two rings here.
4) Synergy with current Astros players. He’s a leader and both parties are very familiar with one another.
5) Provides a shot in the arm to the current team. Just like us, they’re waiting to see what the front office does and just how invested they are in winning this year.
6) frick the Rangers.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:33 pm to 5 Deep
You took this photo right as you showed Bidge the headline when FODB was given his contract for this season, right?
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:42 pm to High C
And a few reasons not to
1) Personal catcher
1) Personal catcher
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:58 pm to High C
Can't disagree with any of those reasons
Just a matter of cost (future contributions from talent given up and resources for the same) moving forward for a piece that may marginally help our playoff position, and almost assuredly not help come playoff time
I mean, we needed a Bregman 2 run shot followed by a Yed 3 run shot to escape first round Game 1, then he blew a 5 run lead vs the Phillies
Just a matter of cost (future contributions from talent given up and resources for the same) moving forward for a piece that may marginally help our playoff position, and almost assuredly not help come playoff time
I mean, we needed a Bregman 2 run shot followed by a Yed 3 run shot to escape first round Game 1, then he blew a 5 run lead vs the Phillies
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:00 pm to wahoocs
Shhhhhh!
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:03 pm to wahoocs
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then he blew a 5 run lead vs the Phillies
Yeah, and we already have a whole bull pen of guys that can do that.
I still wouldn't mind having JV. I think he'd be good for the clubhouse. He will say what he thinks and not care. He cares a lot about winning. In fact, I'd say getting wins is the main reason he is still playing.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:09 pm to LaLadyinTx
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I still wouldn't mind having JV. I think he'd be good for the clubhouse. He will say what he thinks and not care. He cares a lot about winning. In fact, I'd say getting wins is the main reason he is still playing.
That's the intangible. Brown and France need another voice other than Maldonado in their ears. No one on the present roster has the gravitas of Verlander, and it's sorely missing.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:09 pm to LaLadyinTx
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He cares a lot about winning. In fact, I'd say getting wins is the main reason he is still playing
Well, if that's the case, we should know very soon
But I feel more like it's money, then the legacy he's after
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:14 pm to wahoocs
It’s sounding like the Mets want quite a bit to deal him, so it probably isn’t very likely at this point. I do think he’s the best realistic option available to fill the rotation hole we need to fill. I think I’d give up any 2 or 3 prospects not named Gilbert if the Mets are going to eat a bunch of money (Baez is working his way into that group too) but that’s probably not enough to get it done. AL is wide open
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:12 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
There's only one obvious target who's better at his age, salary and potential. If the nerd cave thinks they can get the very best out of Cease, Dana should empty the cupboard for him.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:13 pm to Jwho77
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@astros
Roster moves prior to tonight's game:
•RHP Jake Cousins has been claimed off waivers from Milwaukee and optioned to Triple A Sugar Land
•RHP Brandon Bielak has been optioned to Sugar Land
•LHP Matt Gage has been recalled from Sugar Land
•LHP Blake Taylor has been designated for assignment
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:18 pm to Jwho77
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Brian McTaggart
@brianmctaggart
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Astros roster moves:
-RHP Jake Cousins has been claimed off waivers from Milwaukee and optioned to Triple-A Sugar Land.
-LHP Matt Gage has been recalled from Sugar Land.
-RHP Brandon Bielak has been optioned to Sugar Land.
- LHP Blake Taylor has been DFA’d
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:22 pm to Jwho77
I don’t see Cease as realistic for us. I’d love to get him obviously and would deal any prospect (Gilbert included) as well as some guys off the ML roster
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
I’m not good at trade values because I usually see more value in prospects the there probably is.
But what would a potential deal for say Verlander look like?
But what would a potential deal for say Verlander look like?
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:24 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I mean, if Pena is on the table, Cease is attainable. The Astros have the ammo - namely current MLB players - to do it.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:25 pm to Jwho77
That’s a trade that’s almost always made in the winter. I’m not opposed to it but there isn’t much precedent for shaking up your major league roster like that mid year. It’s pretty rare
Bielak option is because Urquidy should be able to take his turn next time around I would think? So bring up the extra bullpen arm in between
Bielak option is because Urquidy should be able to take his turn next time around I would think? So bring up the extra bullpen arm in between
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 3:27 pm
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