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"Gender affirming healthcare"

Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3271 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:12 am
The phrase "gender affirming healthcare" is widely used in media reports and studies regarding the matter. This phrase, to the best of my knowledge, includes body altering surgeries.

I've always been confused by this. If the argument is gender does not necessarily correlate with a person's sexual organs, then why is a surgery to alter the sexual organs to match the person's self-identified gender considered "gender affirming"?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6957 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:16 am to
Women who get breast implants have body dysphoria on what they think their gender should look like.

They mutilate their bodies and insert foreign materials in it. Why do you think they are altering their sex organs?

They try to "affirm" their bodies for their gender.

Should only one group have that choice?
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111701 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:16 am to
Destruction of adult sexual function isn’t “care.”

Any health practitioner or parent signing off on their child taking puberty blockers should sign a pledge that should any child later regret their transitioning that the adults involved will agree to chemical castration for themselves.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11845 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:17 am to
Medical malpractice.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67517 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:20 am to
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"Gender affirming healthcare"

It's mutilation.....the only care is Big Pharma caring about their profits.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27265 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:21 am to
It should be treated as what it is... mental illness...
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29580 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:22 am to
It’s their way to make “mutilation of children” into a G-rated Carebears and rainbows land thing instead
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34725 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:23 am to
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"gender affirming healthcare"


=

Child abuse.

Period.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18449 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:27 am to
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gender affirming healthcare


= Big pharma and doctors having an ATM machine for as long as the trans person lives. It can cost up to 100K for the gender affirming care and insurance doesn't cover a lot of the cost. This shite is a money grab along with mentally ill people joining in on a fad.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 10:27 am
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3085 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:27 am to
It's "sex change surgery." Sex is biological and hard to change (impossible, at the chromosomal level). Gender is a social and mental construct that is fluid and can and does change. And that's *their* argument. At the root of all this is the insane idea that you can and should change biological identity to accommodate a fluid (and in almost all cases pathological) sense of psychological identity.

I would be better not to say "gender affirming," even when quoting headlines or comments.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7133 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:53 am to
When you control the Language, you control the Culture. The Left is winning & the media is all in on it.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21985 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 11:03 am to
Genital mutilation and sterilization healthcare
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 11:11 am to
Commie playbook.

"Genital mutilation" is the accurate term.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19831 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 11:26 am to
Mental illness affirming healthcare is itself insane.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:16 pm to
For purposes of discussion, let's accept the notion that gender confusion (whether dysmorphia or dysphoria) is a "mental illness."

It seems to me that there are three broad categories of response. First, do nothing. Second, psychological/psychiatric treatment. Third, physical treatment.

Hopefully, not many people propose "do nothing." Again as I see it, the second option is basically an attempt to alter the contents of the package to match its exterior, while the third option is an attempt to alter the packaging to match the contents.

I've yet to see a coherent and logical reason that altering the contents is a better response than altering the packaging.

To the contrary, it seems to me that the "essence" of a person is not the packaging, but the personality, the memories and the thought processes that it contains ... the "soul" if you will. Changing the packaging to match the contents just makes more sense to me, if it were just a toggle switch. It isn't a toggle switch, no two people/patients are the same, and it seems to me that one solution might be best for one person, while the other approach might be better for the other.
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why is a surgery to alter the sexual organs to match the person's self-identified gender considered "gender affirming"?
Yet another example of worrying more about labels than substance, IMO.

The reasoning behind the terminology is not difficult to understand. If the "packaging" is being altered to match the "contents," then the "contents" are being affirmed as being the true essence of the person at issue.

Personally, I could not care less about the terminology.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4351 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I've always been confused by this. If the argument is gender does not necessarily correlate with a person's sexual organs, then why is a surgery to alter the sexual organs to match the person's self-identified gender considered "gender affirming"?


Your problem is that you are attempting to apply logic to this situation.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7416 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:52 pm to
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If the argument is gender does not necessarily correlate with a person's sexual organs, then why is a surgery to alter the sexual organs to match the person's self-identified gender considered "gender affirming"?


I think about that question as well. There are some trans folks that seem to be ok with simply identifying as being nonbinary, gender fluid or identifying as a gender that is opposite of their sex without under going surgical or hormonal transition...or they limit it. Perhaps they dont suffer from the dymorphia as others do and its just how they choose to identify themselves.

The concept that gender and sex are separate and gender is just a social construct makes sense to me. Its not a new concept either and cultures have accepted this concept through out history. It does make me wonder if we were more open and accepting of those that identify as the gender opposite of their sex if we would see less cases of dysmorphia (am I using that term right?)and in turn see less of a desire to surgically alter themselves.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68493 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:53 pm to


It doesn't affirm gender, it destroys it.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14184 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:18 pm to
"Mental illness affirming medical procedure."
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2608 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 2:00 pm to
you see, it requires powerful drugs and mutilating surgeries to be one's "true" self
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