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re: What's the universally accepted indicator that a city is lost?

Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:41 am to
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I think you are really reaching with number 3.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11002 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:42 am to
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Multiple large empty factories


Yes.

6) Abandoned buildings with / w/o plywood over the windows and doors.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50407 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:43 am to
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When the leading category of all advertising in a city is personal injury attorneys.



Or STD "alerts". Seeing those all over the place now too.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11002 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:45 am to
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Don’t forget the hordes of Fentanyl Zombies.


Yea maybe that needs its own category and not lumped into homeless.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11002 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:47 am to
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Merchandise all locked up/behind locked cabinets needing a clerk to open


Damn good one.

7) Metal roll down doors in front of what few businesses still in operation.

Posted by Spaniard
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2011
765 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:47 am to
Deterioration soon follows the permitting of people canvassing motorists at intersections for handouts.
Posted by Cubera
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
194 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:50 am to
Reparations
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:51 am to
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Walmart pulls out


Happened here about 15 years ago, but it was due to low sales.

It was an awesome shopping experience though, never any lines, easy parking.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4186 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:52 am to
Vacant, dilapidated homes and commercial buildings, squatters/vagrants, trash, drugs, graffiti. Obviously, Detroit (MI), Flint (MI), Gary (IN) to name a few...

I've personally seen some of these "ghost streets and neighborhoods" in Detroit. It truly is eerie...some of those homes in Detroit were so beautiful as well.




This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 8:55 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4796 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:56 am to
When your city is mentioned in the same sentence as Detroit, then this becomes a good indicator that your city's demographics and voting block (Nola, Baton Rudge et al) are a lost cause.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5214 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:56 am to
Ukraine flags
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10503 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:58 am to
A lot of that stuff can be cleaned up.

It’s when you start seeing buildings go up in flames that it’s truly rock bottom.

Destruction of property either for insurance money or civil unrest is the most glaring indication that things have gotten totally out of hand. The insurance burning usually comes after the civil unrest


Even then, if there is a lifeline, things can rebound.
Nola has the river. It will never go away so it’s the lifeline that keeps things rolling. That big wheel keeps on turning…

This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3832 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:01 am to
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black woman mayor that won't be bullied



... and that participates in protests by people who want to burn down the city

Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3832 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:02 am to


That was v1.0... here's the latest

Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56422 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:04 am to
Police force down in officers by over 15% from proper staffing levels.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10503 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:06 am to
Nola has become highly reliant on tourism and conventions as the clown mayors with no real business accumen expand that sector. They want the flimsy veneer that comes with tourism and convention. Gambling, tee shirt shops, trinkets, food service and hotels are the game.

Nola, he’s done well with tourism for decades. post Covid, it has done really well with tourism.
Tourists will come but will they come BACK?

Nola; in the state it’s in, is not a place trourists will want to come back to. Too much grafitti, trash, smell, and general crime will deter return visitors.

So there is more to unfold in Nola with respect to tourism. I expect to see numbers drop off considerably in 2024 as conventions look for other areas less dirty and dangerous.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12274 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:06 am to
When they start making things openly legal that were previously strictly enforced:

- public camping/homeless
- drugs use
- make public statements to not call police for non life or death crimes

When I can’t stop at a freaking gas station and use the bathroom because the filthy general public has forced the store owners to pull that privilege.

See Austin
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:08 am to
We just need to keep voting Democrat. We’re almost to utopia.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10987 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:08 am to
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Graffiti


I used to think this but then I went to Europe. Every large city has graffiti it’s just a choice of letting it go or spend money to paint over it. Texas cities thankfully are pretty diligent but it’s still around. Porto Portugal has a ton everywhere, ugly as hell mostly, but it’s also an awesome well run city in many aspects.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2089 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:22 am to
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