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re: Open the Car Door for your Woman

Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:15 am to
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:15 am to
I can't believe I'm saying this, as this is usually the province of Marxists and other losers, but those of y'all confused by modernity's rejection of these behaviors could stand to engage in some logical deconstruction of what expectations the behaviors communicate and why. If you did, you'd see how performative and silly a bunch of them are.

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Not one baw (young or old) opened the car door for his SO. Man, that’s like the least a guy can do to for his lady.

She's not a five year old. She can open and close her own damn door. Why would you take pride in meeting an expectation fit for her butler, anyway?

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I’m a stickler for elevator etiquette too. Women enter before I do and exit before I do. I’ve taught this to my male kids. Older women appreciate it; younger women seem confused by it.

I can't imagine why a woman might be worried about a strange man insisting on remaining in her visual blind spot.

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What is more confusing to younger women is that the guy should walk on the street side. A while ago, I was leaving the courthouse in DC with a much younger female lawyer. We were walking a few blocks to the parking garage. As we crossed streets she seemed befuddled that I would come around from behind her and walk on the outside.

Same observation. And besides, what are you gonna do, catch a runaway car in your bare hands for the little lady?

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I don't think she was being a bitch, I just think that it's a bit sad that young women do not appreciate these gestures - even if most people think they are outdated.

Why should she? What value do you think you've added to her life with these performances? What is there to appreciate?

It's just so performative and pointless. Modern women neither want nor appreciate any of this shite. And the more traditionally minded women basically only want or appreciate it because their dads told them they should decades ago. They're valueless gestures at best and signal a subservience that women hold in disdain at worst. They certainly do nothing for you besides preserve an ego-identity of a "real man" that has little real-world relation to what people actually respect out of a "real man." So why do it?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117766 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:23 am to
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So why do it?






Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19473 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:10 am to
"Valueless gestures"? One of the many things that has no gender attached to it is just being nice, for its own sake. As in what's wrong with just being nice with no expectations of any kind ? And am curious as to just how you know that females detest such acts of courtesy. I can't see you performing any such acts, so how do you know how a female might feel about something that never happened? Just the contrary, I've been a "gentleman "my whole life & have never received anything but compliments. For something that is only natural for me. The side walk thing bothers you ? Good Lord.
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