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re: A list of the 54 Texas Democrats who shot down citizen-only voting rights

Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:33 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:33 am to
So, you have no answer either?

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
673 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.


Because States are not allowed the create a specific sub citizenship. National citizenship is the only legal category allowed because the founding fathers never imagined a time when half of the population hated America so much that they would want foreigners to decide how they are governed.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:37 am to
Leaving childish insults aside is not possible when you're intellectually a twelve year old.
Get ready Hank lol.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10664 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:41 am to
Because local regulations have a history of shaping federal level policy.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections


Constitutionally? Even you should be able to figure that out.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections.


1. Because there's no such thing as local citizenship, and

2. It's a slippery slope designed to normalize national voting on an incremental basis. it's how the Democrats accomplish everything they do. Long games and incrementalism.

If you dispute point number two, what do you think the universal Democrat vote is in response to?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27001 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:41 am to
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Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections


1. Non-citizens, even if here legally, have not undergone the extensive vetting that goes with the citizenship process. We don't even know who these people are for certain. They come here with questionable documentation.

2. They have not learned about our government system. Even our local laws have to follow the constitution.

3. Our election system is fragile and the worst thing for any election is distrust. There is already a lot of distrust, and allowing non-citizens to vote - even in local elections - would cause additional mistrust in the system.

4. If would enable widespread abuse in the election process. There is already abuse, but given even small access would allow even more.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119074 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:48 am to
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So, you have no answer either?


Citizenship is the answer but you refuse to except it, why?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42918 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Explain the logic

trying to explain logic to a hard core left wing radical is aan exercise in futility, if not a contradiction in terms.

You know the reasons why it is a bad idea - and you know the reason left wing radicals want it so much.

In short - it is just another pile of names that can be used for 'ballot' purposes - and if not by outlright cheating, then as a pressure point for the next outrage about 'disadvantaged voters' or whatever bullshite rolls off the tongues on extreme leftists anytime they want to further muddle an issue.

You want this for the same reason you want more illegal aliens present in the county - to increase the pressure to 'take care of these poor souls' by 'at least' giving them the VOTE to 'determine their own future'

It is the holy grail - extend voting RIGHTS as much as possible - your leaders want it to be lowered to 16 years old, let illegal aliens vote, let prisoners vote, let vagrants vote,

hell - let ANYONE vote if they are in a situation where they are easily misled, are without wisdom to evaluate cause/effect, unconcerned with who they hell is going to have to foot the bill for whatever they 'vote for' etc.

You know it - we know it - we know you know it - you are preaching to the uninformed, uncaring, irresponsible with your rhetoric.

shame on you.

edit - oh - and the clincher - you want more illiterate, irresponsible, dim-witted, parasitic, mentally deficient people represented on the voting rolls. That way your 'harvesters' have TARGETs of you 'harvesters' all bundled up in a group who normally dont even know what a "vote" actually means, could not care less if they did, and are willing to sell out their franchise for another swig of Mogen David.

u know it - we know it - we know u know it

stfu.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91000 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.


If you start allowing it for local then it starts a slippery slope into allowing it for national elections
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57439 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.

You want an expliaintion of something that has been common sense for 100s of years? You deserve the insults. And you are the one that should be providing the argument of merit.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50238 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:21 pm to
You imbecile. You devalue local elections? Why should a “local” vote be open to any Tom, Dick or Harry but a “national” vote is limited to citizens?

Logic is a fine tool...buy yourself a set.
Posted by KeithDB
Member since Jul 2008
4 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:39 pm to
LOL AggieHank, the geniuses at TexAgs have decided that I am you.

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