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re: That was a bad throw by the catcher and a ticky-tack call

Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16465 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:00 pm to
Different ruling for 1st base than everywhere else, in regards to within the basepath. I don't like it because you are supposed to run straight to the bag, and the way you naturally leave the batters box will have you just inside of the line.

MLB has a better rule about maintaining a straight line/path to 1st regardless of where you are as long as you're in the dirt; but I would not trust NCAA umpires with judgement calls.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1550 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:00 pm to
Worst rule in sports
The bag is INSIDE the baseline
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37153 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:06 pm to
The solution here is simple.

Use what some kid leagues use… the double base at 1st.
Posted by Tschool
Zachary
Member since Jan 2004
118 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:15 pm to
The lines are part of the lane, so stepping on the line is not a violation. Also, one foot in or on the line and the other foot in the air is permitted. The batter-runner must take two consecutive steps totally outside the lane to violate the rule. If interference is called, the ball is immediately dead and the batter-runner is out; any other runners return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch (NFHS 8-4-1g, NCAA 7-11p, OBR 5.09a11).
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
181 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:23 pm to
Explained earlier, but the rule is too strict. Runner going down the line like he did should be legal. A couple of inches ain't getting out much. Runner should not have a look at his feet. Ump called it by the rule, though.

Big Ben sure is good with his in-game comments.
Posted by MidCityTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
660 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:27 pm to
The lack of baseball rules knowledge on the Rant is fairly incomprehensible.

(Oh! And by the way, we benefitted from the exact same call earlier in the season.)
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25786 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:37 pm to
IT's a stupid fricking rule.

What happens if its a drop 3rd strike? The catcher will likely now be behind the batter, and thus in foul territory. The first baseman usually catches the ball in foul territory on this play. So the batter can basically run almost in the grass since that's where the second white line is to get in the way of this throw from the catcher, and that would be ok to do, but if the catcher wants to throw the ball from fair territory, then the batter can't even be an inch inside of fair territory, even though the base is inside of fair territory? Just all around stupid.
The base path should simply be the dirt. Stay inside the dirt. very simple.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39983 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:58 pm to
There's gotta be some more leeway with that scenario. It's one thing if he ran 3 feet inside the line and the ball hits him square in the back. His left foot was MAYBE 3 inches inside.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39983 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

The lack of baseball rules knowledge on the Rant is fairly incomprehensible.


We understand the rule. It's just a dumb arse rule in practice, if it's going to be called that strictly.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

There's gotta be some more leeway with that scenario. It's one thing if he ran 3 feet inside the line and the ball hits him square in the back. His left foot was MAYBE 3 inches inside.


His left foot was maybe 3 inches out of bounds is the better way to think about it. He had a wide lane to stay inside, but he didn’t.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39983 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:14 pm to
I get it. I understand that is the rule. Interpreting that rule that strictly is fricking dumb.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14580 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:21 pm to
I haven't seen the full replay, but I'm curious if the catcher was touching the bag when he caught the force-out at home. I assume he was since they didn't say anything on the review.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10454 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
It’s fricking stupid because even if he wouldn’t have been inside the line he still would’ve gotten hit.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Such a bullshite rule change. You’re literally taught to get in the line of the throw. They’re taking out all of the small things that matter and I hate it


Yup. People who don’t love baseball are making the rules. It’s horseshite.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:10 pm to
You misread my post...if your foot is 1 cm over the chalk it is interference. My comment was that the rule should be you just need to have your foot on the chalk.
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:20 pm to
good call his foot is inside
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14858 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:23 pm to
It was a bad call - there was no intent, T actually spun outside at the end, and the ball hit him on the OUTSIDE hip.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
10658 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 6:17 pm to
The worst rule in baseball.

And the baseball gods know it.
Posted by Ipissexcellence
Member since Dec 2018
328 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 6:40 pm to
That’s an easy out call every time. People are right the throw should’ve been further into fair territory but it wasn’t. If he were in the running lane the ball still would have struck him and he would’ve been safe. 2 steps before the ball struck him he was in running lane and he leaned back out to get in the way.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12499 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

that was back in the 50s.

That's crazy. I literally never heard of that rule until about 10 years ago watching LSU baseball. Of course, I basically quit playing baseball in 2nd grade and we barely had a team in high school, so I'm really REALLY far from a baseball expert. But it's a stupid rule anyway, imo. Why have a basepath that you're NOT supposed to run in? If my stride length gets me to 1st at a point where my right foot is the first contact, then I have to do a more complicated (and slower) cross step to reach the bag. That's dumb. There's no reason to make a special rule for 1st base; let the defense play around the runner in fair territory just like they do in the rest of the field.

But I really don't care enough about baseball rules to worry about it other than that once every 5-10 years I see it screw an LSU runner.

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