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re: lsu has a really good team, doubt, but we could as easily
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:11 am to stephendomalley
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:11 am to stephendomalley
I’m not being a Debbie downer but everyone needs to take off the purple and gold glasses. They are some STUD pitchers in the top 10 rankings right now that can hold LSU under 5-6 runs a game. We walk an average of 3-4 runs in a game then add the horrible fielding. Our offense will have to do RECORD things to get us a ship. This is a one sided team and that one side is the easiest thing to shutdown. Good pitching beats good hitting. Too many injuries to the pitching staff this year and this is where we are. Could we go on an absolute tear offensive wise??? Sure we could but what will the Wakes, UF’s of the world do to our second or third starter???? Injuries happen and we caught the bad side of it. Time to come to the realization of that.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:33 am to stephendomalley
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was watching the 2d game of the auburn series and we were outhitting them really badly, but couldn't get runs across the plate. it was late and the handwriting was on the wall so i went to bed.
Have a down vote for this alone. We have could just as easily won this game as we lost it. We were in it until the last pitch.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:36 am to Honkus
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Biggest fear right now is someone pitching backwards ala Butch Thompson in the Super Regional
I think we’re going to see a good bit of this moving forward.
All we can do is try to be patient at the plate and wait for mistakes. Even with runners in scoring position.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:49 am to StevieG504
Agreed. This team has shown they can do what it takes to make it to Omaha, Pitching will be fine.
Fans need to have faith in Jay Johnson and his staff because he is going to get this team in whatever shape it needs to be for a run.
Fans need to have faith in Jay Johnson and his staff because he is going to get this team in whatever shape it needs to be for a run.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:52 am to eetiger
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I will say that if we fall into the losers bracket at any point in the post season our chances aren’t very good.
While this statement is true, this statement is also true for every single team in the country, every single year
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:09 am to Tigersonfire
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They are some STUD pitchers in the top 10 rankings right now that can hold LSU under 5-6 runs a game.
Odds are those stud pitchers will be facing LSU when Skenes is on the mound. There aren’t many teams that have two dudes that can shut this offense down.
This team has also shown the ability to work starters pitch counts and get them out the game early and destroys middle relief pitching.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:27 am to Tigersonfire
Wake Forest has a deep pitching staff and no series losses. There’s not a lot of argument against them from that perspective. Beyond that, I’m not sure where all these stud arms are.
- Vanderbilt has 2 starters with conference ERAs below 5.40 and 2 relievers below 4.00, but they have given up 63 runs in 9 games against currently ranked conference opponents. They are 9-6 against common opponents with LSU. LSU is 11-3.
- Arkansas has no full-time starters below 5.00 in conference ERA with Hagen Smith at 3.24 in his hybrid role. Only 1 other reliever is below 4.00.
- Stanford has one starter with a conference ERA below 5.50 and none below 3.00.
-Florida has no starters below 5.24 in conference ERA and one reliever (with only 8 IP) below 4.00.
- South Carolina has no starters with more than 16.1 IP below a 5.25 ERA in conference and only one reliever below 5.71.
- Duke has no full-time starters with a conference ERA below 5.46.
- Coastal Carolina has no starters below 5.00.
- UConn has one weekend starter below 5.44 and none below 4.26.
- WVU has one starter below 5.15 in conference and none below 4.46.
- I couldn’t find a conference breakdown for Miami but they have only one starter below 4.65 overall and none below 4.27.
- Campbell has one starter with an ERA below 4.93.
- East Carolina does have 3 starters between 3.11 and 3.97 but at a lower competition level. Their offense isn’t great given the level.
- Oregon St has no starters below 4.72 in conference.
- I couldn’t find a conference breakdown for Clemson, but they have only one starter below 4.52 overall and none below 3.42.
I’m not sure where all these deep pitching staffs are that you all seem worried about.
- Vanderbilt has 2 starters with conference ERAs below 5.40 and 2 relievers below 4.00, but they have given up 63 runs in 9 games against currently ranked conference opponents. They are 9-6 against common opponents with LSU. LSU is 11-3.
- Arkansas has no full-time starters below 5.00 in conference ERA with Hagen Smith at 3.24 in his hybrid role. Only 1 other reliever is below 4.00.
- Stanford has one starter with a conference ERA below 5.50 and none below 3.00.
-Florida has no starters below 5.24 in conference ERA and one reliever (with only 8 IP) below 4.00.
- South Carolina has no starters with more than 16.1 IP below a 5.25 ERA in conference and only one reliever below 5.71.
- Duke has no full-time starters with a conference ERA below 5.46.
- Coastal Carolina has no starters below 5.00.
- UConn has one weekend starter below 5.44 and none below 4.26.
- WVU has one starter below 5.15 in conference and none below 4.46.
- I couldn’t find a conference breakdown for Miami but they have only one starter below 4.65 overall and none below 4.27.
- Campbell has one starter with an ERA below 4.93.
- East Carolina does have 3 starters between 3.11 and 3.97 but at a lower competition level. Their offense isn’t great given the level.
- Oregon St has no starters below 4.72 in conference.
- I couldn’t find a conference breakdown for Clemson, but they have only one starter below 4.52 overall and none below 3.42.
I’m not sure where all these deep pitching staffs are that you all seem worried about.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:34 am to stephendomalley
quote:We literally had the winning run at the plate in the 9th but awesome. Good job
it was late and the handwriting was on the wall so i went to bed
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:40 am to Tigersonfire
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We walk an average of 3-4 runs in a game
What games are you watching?
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This is a one sided team and that one side is the easiest thing to shutdown
Yet other than this weekend it hasn't been shut down.
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They are some STUD pitchers in the top 10 rankings right now that can hold LSU under 5-6 runs a game.
LSU has been held under 5-6 by a starter who doesn't go past the 5th or 6th. Other than this weekend, this line up has feasted on the next guy out of the pen.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:51 am to Broski
Unless the 2/3 seeds #3 pitcher is a lefty that throws low 80's fastball and 60% 70mph junk... while we are walking the bases loaded every other inning.
OP is right. This team can absolutely beat anyone in America. It will be interesting if they fall into the losers bracket in the regional, or early in Omaha when there is a 4 team bracket.
Actually more comfortable in the regional with the two of three format. Or the final weekend of Omaha which is also 2 of 3.
OP is right. This team can absolutely beat anyone in America. It will be interesting if they fall into the losers bracket in the regional, or early in Omaha when there is a 4 team bracket.
Actually more comfortable in the regional with the two of three format. Or the final weekend of Omaha which is also 2 of 3.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:54 am to Broski
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There is a better chance that we win it all than get eliminated in the regionals.
Lol
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:58 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:Pretty good breakdown. I think the new ball combined with the extremely tight zone this year is hindering pitchers
MikeTheTiger71
Makes what Skenes is doing all that more impressive
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:59 am to TackySweater
I'm not sure what you're laughing at. He's right.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:04 am to Solo Cam
I think you're on to something Solo. It feels like many of our pitchers from last year have regressed. It may really be about the tighter zones and Tighter wrapped ball. In 2023 you have to throw the ball over the white of the plate several times per at bat. The guys with swing and Miss stuff can still get you out. The guys who aren't as nasty but were great at hitting the edges of the zone are now struggling mightily.
Curious if anyone is watching significant amounts of baseball outside the sec. If they are not using trackman, is the old Zone still in play. Wondering how that might affect our hitters and our pictures if the strike zone becomes very different in the National Tournament.
Curious if anyone is watching significant amounts of baseball outside the sec. If they are not using trackman, is the old Zone still in play. Wondering how that might affect our hitters and our pictures if the strike zone becomes very different in the National Tournament.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:09 am to Solo Cam
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m not sure what you're laughing at. He's right.
You need a hell of a lot to go right to win it all and only a little bit to go wrong to lose in the regional.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:29 am to TackySweater
No, you need a whole lot to go wrong to lose in a 4 team regional if you are the 1 seed.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:15 pm to Dizz
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No, you need a whole lot to go wrong to lose in a 4 team regional if you are the 1 seed.
You need one below par outing from your top pitcher and a bad hitting day.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:15 pm to Dizz
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No, you need a whole lot to go wrong to lose in a 4 team regional if you are the 1 seed.
Since 1999, 10 teams seeded #1-#3 have failed to make it out of their regional and 7 have won the CWS. On the other hand, 13 have made it to the championship finals and 44 have made the CWS. You are correct that it’s a slight exaggeration that they are more likely to win the CWS than fail to advance out of the regional, but it is more likely that they would advance far.
I think LSU is actually more set up to advance from the regionals than most high seeds given a shutdown ace to close out the winners’ bracket and a high octane offense to take advantage of the subpar pitching they are likely to face in the other games.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:45 pm to oldskule
And get rid of the pitchers analytics, everyone behind Skenes cannot make the pitches the analytics call for. Let them pitch.
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