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re: I'm filling in holes with topsoil

Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:56 pm to
How many yards of masonry sand is in a backhoe bucket? Also how much could I haul in my 3/4 ton truck?
Posted by TheRange
Member since Aug 2017
150 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:06 pm to
What is the best time of year to level with mason sand? Should i let my st aug really get going or do it while its still greening up?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5290 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:19 pm to
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What is the best time of year to level with mason sand? Should i let my st aug really get going or do it while its still greening up?

When the grass is actively growing, so now or later, but the LSU AgCenter recommendation is to add no more than 2 inches of fill at a time, let the grass grow through that, and then add more fill as needed, never exceeding 2 inches per application. Otherwise, you may smother the grass with a deeper application requiring re-sodding.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5290 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:28 pm to
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How many yards of masonry sand is in a backhoe bucket? Also how much could I haul in my 3/4 ton truck?

That can vary a lot. I buy garden soil mix from 3 retail garden centers locally - one uses a 1/3 yd bucket on it’s front-end loader, another a 1/2 yd bucket, the 3rd, a 1 yard bucket.

Internet says 1 yard of mason sand weighs 2400 lbs. I’d be careful putting any more than a 1/2 yd in the back of a 3/4 ton pickup - transmission and suspension repairs are expensive. Rent or borrow trailer to pull if you need more.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1604 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:08 pm to
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That can vary a lot. I buy garden soil mix from 3 retail garden centers locally - one uses a 1/3 yd bucket on it’s front in loader, another a 1/2 yd bucket, the 3rd, a 1 yard bucket.

Internet says 1 yard of mason sand weighs 2400 lbs. I’d be careful putting any more than a 1/2 yd in the back of a 3/4 ton pickup - transmission and suspension repairs are expensive. Rent or borrow trailer to pull if you need more.


They you very much. I was looking at ordering some which was $30 a ton plus $75 to deliver it.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1604 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

That can vary a lot. I buy garden soil mix from 3 retail garden centers locally - one uses a 1/3 yd bucket on it’s front in loader, another a 1/2 yd bucket, the 3rd, a 1 yard bucket.

Internet says 1 yard of mason sand weighs 2400 lbs. I’d be careful putting any more than a 1/2 yd in the back of a 3/4 ton pickup - transmission and suspension repairs are expensive. Rent or borrow trailer to pull if you need more.


They you very much. I don't want to mess up my new truck. I was looking at ordering some which was $30 a ton plus $75 to deliver it.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6109 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:23 pm to
It's impossible to know without knowing the size of the bucket. Probably 1-2 yards on average, but the operator will know how to dole it out in 1/2 increments.


Your 3/4 ton has a capacity of 3/4 ton, or 1,500 pounds. A yard of sand can easily weigh 2,500 to 3,000 lbs depending on moisture content. No reason to break your truck!

A half yard is a LOT of sand, that's approximately 25-27 bags you'd buy in a store. You'll see sand sold by cu ft because the moisture content causes so much variability in weight. Some locations dry the sand, some don't.

If you need more than a yard, you might just consider having them bring it to you and dumping it.
Posted by RushHour
East Texas
Member since Dec 2018
101 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 7:45 am to
This hasn't been the case for a while now. Modern 3/4t trucks can carry 3-4,000LBS+ in their beds.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6109 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:35 am to
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This hasn't been the case for a while now. Modern 3/4t trucks can carry 3-4,000LBS+ in their beds.


I stand corrected, go for it.

Having spent time in the bagged concrete biz, it makes me cringe when I see a pallet of concrete (+3000lb) in the bed, I wouldn't ride behind it. Just make sure you can still steer when you are done.

Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12419 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:41 am to
Glad I read this thread. Will probably go to Louisiana Nursery or Clegg's to get some real soil as I have some of the same issues. Was told by them to wait a little longer and then put down some fertilizer specifically for my St. Aug. Should I put some soil down much earlier before seeding? With rain coming this weekend, I kind of want to do it this week.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10253 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I topdress my lawn using a mix of stuff

sand
topsoil but not the cheap stuff, get the dookie stuff
maybe some peat moss



I have read a mixture dirt and sand is the best way...

I've used just sand before and it works fine, but took a while for grass to grow back through.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:40 pm to
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Where can I just get real dirt?

I was looking under some leaves in the forest one day and saw a huge pile of that stuff. I kept raking the leaves away but it was everywhere. No telling how many pounds of dirt was under those trees. I wish I could remember where it was, I'd get you some.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1604 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:48 am to
Up here in NW Arkansas all I find under the leaves is rock. This is why certain areas of my lot won't grow much grass. They put the sod right on top of the rock hard dirt.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38998 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:08 am to
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Up here in NW Arkansas all I find under the leaves is rock. This is why certain areas of my lot won't grow much grass.
which is also why there wasn’t lawn grass growing there before your house was built
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