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re: SpaceX Starship Full Stack Test Flight Thread | Cleared Tower, Thru MaxQ, then RUD

Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:15 am to
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Next flight


Date?
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
293 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:16 am to
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Something positive about the failure to separate:

It's amazing that the first and second stages held together through a number of rotations. You've got to figure the forces pulling at them were incredible.


Maybe- one way to look at engineering is the successful prediction of failure modes.

If it wasn't supposed to do that, then the strength might be physically impressive and amazing, but that doesn't necessarily make it a positive thing from an engineering perspective.

Sometimes things intentionally breaking are just as important as things intentionally not-breaking.
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
15794 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:17 am to
Likely June or July
This launch license covers up to 3 launches I think
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:18 am to
Looks like 6 to me
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:22 am to
There's 27 lit = 6 out.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:22 am to
Just stop.
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:25 am to
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It's amazing that the first and second stages held together through a number of rotations. You've got to figure the forces pulling at them were incredible.



Scott Manley tweeted "This looks a bit to Kerbal". I was thinking the same thing. But half the fun of KSP is blowing shite up.

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1649044517465595905
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
293 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:26 am to
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They said on the feed it was supposed to flip over before separation. And it did. But then it kept flipping and rotating.

But unless I misheard them several times, it was definitely supposed to flip over BEFORE separation.


I... don't think that's correct. Maybe they did say that, but they also sounded confused like they didn't know what to say during those first 2 loops until the BOOM.

The booster was supposed to flip for its return burn, but the 2nd stage wasn't supposed to be demonstrating any return/ maneuvering abilities, separated or not.

They weren't even going to do the bellyflop maneuver they did on the last flight, because they wanted to be sure of the reentry location more than anything else.

Doing an attached maneuver doesn't make much sense, but then I wouldn't put anything past Elon. Maybe that's the "for the lols" failure mode.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:39 am to
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:59 am to
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They said on the feed it was supposed to flip over before separation. And it did. But then it kept flipping and rotating.

But unless I misheard them several times, it was definitely supposed to flip over BEFORE separation.


The roll sequence was supposed to sort of "fling" starship apart from B7. Starship does not "blast" off the first stage, it is supposed to separate from the roll THEN fire off.

Obviously it didn't separate but just continued to roll. Once it didn't work (there's no certainty they even planned for it to work this test) you get tons of data from letting it go for a bit i'd assume.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:09 am to
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This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:09 am to
Shits fricked.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:09 am to
Sum Ting Wong
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:10 am to
Typical participation trophy generation response. This was a failure, back to the drawing board.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:15 am to
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Typical participation trophy generation response. This was a failure, back to the drawing board.

SpaceX does a lot of things in a sort of “trial and error” way. They do a launch, see how it works, and then learn from it. If there is an issue, they learn from it. If things go smoothly, they learn from it.

SpaceX is pushing human space exploration forward with every launch they do, regardless of how smooth each launch goes.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:15 am to
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Typical participation trophy generation response


you weirdos who love poking at these things are fricking weird
Posted by 1MileTiger
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jun 2011
1788 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:15 am to
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Typical participation trophy generation response. This was a failure, back to the drawing board.


Yes, launching the world's most powerful rocket with a massive spaceship attached to it several miles into the sky was a failure! Scrap the program, back to our mundane lives.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:19 am to
I'm no rocket scientist but it looked like aliens fricked over the carbonator on engine 4. They should have tried to land on Juniper and refrickulate it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:21 am to
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Typical participation trophy generation response. This was a failure, back to the drawing board.


You people really don't have a clue.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
26087 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:22 am to
"Boca Chica we have a problem"
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