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Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:56 pm to fightin tigers
All I know is this will not go over well with TeamLH 
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:58 pm to YOURADHERE
Id think there will be an appeal, not sure if it happens tonight or if they do it pre-Mexico.
Not sure how you argue if 16 of 20 passed.
Of note, Merc ran that close to the ground with no porpoising.
Not sure how you argue if 16 of 20 passed.
Of note, Merc ran that close to the ground with no porpoising.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:05 pm to HubbaBubba
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I bet she buried her sorrow in a half gallon of Blue Bell.
Likely won’t find out until next year this time
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:05 pm to fightin tigers
quote:I believe it's been stated they only checked the top 4. Not sure if that means they just haven't gotten to the others or not.
Not sure how you argue if 16 of 20 passed.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:14 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
no porpoising.
Even as a Merc fan, I find it funny that the team arguing EVERY team needed to compromise on ride height early last year has figured it out to the point of getting themselves dq’d for being too low…
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:43 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Wolff: "Others got it right where we got it wrong and there’s no wiggle room in the rules. We need to take it on the chin, do the learning, and come back stronger next weekend." #F1 #USGP
Sounds like they have accepted it.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:48 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Is there anything that officially tracks pit stop performance? It seems Mercedes regularly has 3+ second stops while the teams they’re competing against are all 2+ seconds. I haven’t found anything official, but did find these pit stop standings on planetF1 LINK
Red Bull – 436
Ferrari – 360
McLaren – 307
AlphaTauri – 180
Alpine – 168
Aston Martin – 110
Mercedes – 74
Williams – 36
Alfa Romeo – 34
Haas – 12
Now that things are calming down post race, does anyone have more info on pit stop performance tracking?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:26 pm to Open Your Eyes
These DQs are bad for Haas. Instead of 2 pts, Yuki has scored 5 pts, and now AlphaTauri is close to surpassing Haas in the constructor's championship. And Yuki with 8 pts now is just 1 pt behind Hülkenberg and 2 pts behind Bottas, so he has a real chance to move up two spots by the end of the season.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:31 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
On the other side of the coin, it's good for Checo
ETA: Apparently #teamlh lady is the Mclaren guy's mom. LINK
ETA: Apparently #teamlh lady is the Mclaren guy's mom. LINK
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:38 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:
does anyone have more info on pit stop performance tracking?
DHL tracks the pit stops. Those points that planetF1 has are from DHL.
LINK
The points are awarded like regular points are. 25 points to the fastest in each race...
You can select teams and compare their average pit stop at each race but I don't think you can find their averages over the whole season.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:15 pm to BottomlandBrew
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The result for Sargeant is the first time an American driver has scored a point in Formula 1 since 1993, when Michael Andretti finished third at the Italian Grand Prix.
I remember it like it was yesterday. Honda left F1 at the end of 1992, leaving McLaren in the lurch with no "factory" engine. They were stuck with the under-powered "customer" Ford/Cosworth engines.* Ayrton Senna refused to sign a contract for the 1993 season, but he had no alternatives, so he ended up signing with McLaren on a race-by-race basis for a reported $1M USD per race. Although he didn't win the championship, I consider 1993 Senna's finest season because the McLaren was no match for the Williams but Senna managed to win 5 races (including the legendary Donington Park win) and finished P2 in the championship. Oh wait, this story is about Andretti. So Andretti made it to F1 with much fanfare, only to have an abysmal season where he failed to finish a single lap several times. I think he just couldn't get a handle on the active suspension and the standing start procedure. In the first 12 races, Andretti only scored points in two races and only finished five races. Finally in Italy he picked up his first and only F1 podium, finishing P3, although he finished a lap down on the winner Damon Hill. After the race, because it was late in the season, he wanted assurances from Ron Dennis that he would have a seat the next year, but Ron refused to guarantee it. Michael didn't want to be left out in the cold, so he immediately quit the team with three more races left in the season and signed with Chip Ganassi for 1994 (and he won his first race back in IndyCar at Surfers Paradise). Michael's departure gave Mika Häkkinen his big break. (Häkkinen entered F1 racing for Lotus 1991-1992 but of course that had no chance for success.) Anyway, that's why those were the last F1 points scored by Andretti—he left the team with three races to go. Why those were the last points scored by an American driver for 30 years, well that's a whole other story.
*Apparently later in the 1993 season McLaren was able to get the "factory" spec Cosworth that was being supplied to Benetton.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:12 pm to JoeHackett
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You can select teams and compare their average pit stop at each race but I don't think you can find their averages over the whole season.
Thanks. The standings and selection grid seem to bear out that Mercedes is bad at pit stops this season. Just 7 races averaging under 3 seconds a stop, and 0 averaging under 2.5. Red Bull, ferrari, and mclaren all have much better numbers.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:45 am to BuckyCheese
quote:Ferrari participates more as an exhibition (or cautionary tale) for other teams so they should be exempt because no one really cares
They inspect every car after the race.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:48 am to Lsut81
quote:right? Wtf is Ferrari thinking. If you're going to bend the rules its all in or nothing. Embarrassing that they can't even do this correctly
Weird it was only one Merc and one Ferrari
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:54 am to BuckyCheese
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They inspect every car after the race.
quote:"inspect". Honestly why inspect the most underachieving team in the past 2 decades unless your real purpose is just for kicks to determine why they suck every race? Inspect the brains on the pit wall for choosing a strategy that had lec driving a tractor for the last 20 laps. I'm not bitter though.
They only checked the planks on 4 cars.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:57 am to Hogssmellgood
quote:beating up on a cripple is beneath even the FIA. They are a terror organization. Hopefully rocket powered Mohawk will expose this conspiracy in his next video
Lol how cursed is Sharl that they checked the top 3 and then him?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:32 am to Open Your Eyes
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Thanks. The standings and selection grid seem to bear out that Mercedes is bad at pit stops this season
Merc has never really exceled at pit stops. They would lead by so much it never really mattered. Like many of their problems.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:34 pm to fightin tigers
Considering the list of things they check on every car after every race, the fact they only check four for plank wear, which is a simple go/no go measurement, is ridiculous.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:37 pm to BuckyCheese
And won't check the other "sister car" when there is a failure.
Hell, had a 50% failure rate on the cars they chaecked and the FIA is good with that.
Hell, had a 50% failure rate on the cars they chaecked and the FIA is good with that.
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