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re: If Nuss was your son, what would you advise him to do?

Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
1742 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:55 pm to
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Yes... they clearly want to intentionally keep the best players off the field and increase the possibility for defeat. Clown
That’s not what we are saying. We are saying that Kelly and Denbrock think Daniels is better, thats why they brought him in. He fits their style, and that’s not likely to change. You can practice hard with the 2nd and 3rd string but there is no substitute for game experience!
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12107 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 7:33 am to
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Stick it out and battle hard. Your one injury away from starting.




You only have one chance at somethings in life. You better not listen to folks who have no skin in the game. As was mentioned, pick out your best opportunity, get the best NIL deal and ride.
Don't let life pass you by and listen to fans who will turn on you as soon as you throw your first interception.
Posted by Kocin
Pearland Texas
Member since Feb 2017
625 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 7:44 am to
Stick with a commitment to someone who watched you play without a QB when he could’ve played f that
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12107 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:08 am to
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Clown



Where did Troy Aikman sign out of HS. Where did he end up?
Who was the QB that got the starting job at Oklahoma?
Similar to Nuss, Troy didn't fit the scheme favored by the HC at Oklahoma. Unlike BK, the Oklahoma HC told Troy and helped him find a team that would better utilize his talent.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24579 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:29 am to
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Damnit son! This is what Nuss’s do!


Lmao
Posted by Chipeace
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
332 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:36 am to
Practice
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20533 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:43 am to
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Where did Troy Aikman sign out of HS. Where did he end up?
Who was the QB that got the starting job at Oklahoma?
Similar to Nuss, Troy didn't fit the scheme favored by the HC at Oklahoma. Unlike BK, the Oklahoma HC told Troy and helped him find a team that would better utilize his talent.

You're skipping a few bits here...

Like for starters, Aikman was the consensus #1 passing QB recruit.
Barry Switzer broke the Wishbone for him, they were running the I. Oklahoma had every intention of converting to a prostyle offense for him.
Aikman got hurt, they went back to the Bone with Jamelle Holloway. He was a freshman. And they won the national title in that offense. Switzer decided winning was his goal, not running a specific offense, and kept Holloway and the Wishbone.
Lastly, if Switzer helped him transfer, it was because it was a lot harder to do so back then. It's commonplace now, every team loses a dozen or more each year.


Nuss wasn't the #1 QB prospect, if anything Howard is closer to that. The offense was never crafted around him, and there was never a promise made to him that LSU would do anything different if he came.
Nuss chose to come for Orgeron (and Peetz), who are gone.

Merry Christmas
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15469 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:55 am to
I would ask him what did he come to LSU for.

If immediate playing time was his goal, then he should have went to any number of G5 or even FCS schools, he would have had the opportunity to start immediately.

If he wanted to play football at one of the premier programs in the country that constantly put guys in the NFL, then you gotta know playing time is hard to come by. Keep working and be patient. Your time will come.
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
401 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 9:28 am to
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Problem is LSU did not stick with their commitment to Nuss.

They brought in Daniels. So there goes that commitment stuff


Serioously?

You obviously have NEVER played any sport competetively in your life! No team, no school or program guarantees anyone a starting job.

"I guarantee you you will have the chance to compete. But if we have somebody better - and we are always looking to get better - then you either beat him out or do your job as the backup."

THAT is the essntial part of team sports!

You young people have no sense of what's important in the world!
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12107 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:51 am to
1. Did Kelly change the offense from what we were running when Nuss signed?
2. If Nuss is a "turnover machine", as many claim, why the crying about the possibility of him transfering?
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5332 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:53 am to
JD5 is one run away from making you the starter.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6647 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:18 pm to
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If Nuss is a "turnover machine", as many claim, why the crying about the possibility of him transfering?


I don't think the people calling him a turnover machine are the ones worrying about him transferring.

Personally, I think he has a serious ball control problem but it may be fixable. I'm not worried if he transfers as I suspect Howard will be passing him on the depth chart soon anyway... especially if Nuss doesn't address the turnover problem.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56593 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:20 pm to
I would tell my son that if he can’t beat out JD, he ain’t as good as he thinks and to work harder.

If you can’t be QB1 at LSU you may need a back up to football.

Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1593 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:12 pm to
If he was my son, I would advise him to consider leaving. He will not get a shot in 2023, and he may get passed over the following year.
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2797 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:22 pm to
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If Nuss was your son, what would you advise him to do?


Don't be a Cycledude! Have some balls!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18187 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:35 pm to
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To not be as weak as some in this fanbase.

why is it weak to want to play? Daniels will start next year, so if Nuss stays through next season, he'll have been at LSU 3 years and barely seen the field, and will only have 2 years of eligibility remaining.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9310 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:43 pm to
You have obviously never been a star quarterback recruit, looking to prepare for the NFL, reviewing a depth chart to determine who is in front of you and how many years of eligibility they have and discussing with the coaches before committing to a school. An incoming recruit is expecting competition from newly recruited kids brought in benath you on the depth chart in years after you commit. A recruit would usually not expect the play LSU made with Daniels and bringing him as an upperclassman with two years of eligibility to be used the two years that Nuss would have expected to have been the starter while he was being recruited.

Now you can argue about whether bringing in Daniels is good for LSU. Based on the only data we have, which is the production from this season you would have to say yes. But bringing in Daniels was not good for Nuss’s development and was unexpected from Nuss's point of view. Had Nuss known when he committed this would happen. He would have most likely gone somewhere else that would have been more committed to Nuss and his development.

When he was brought in you had Brennan, then Nuss, then Walker and then whoever came in after Walker which looks like Collins. Daniels was not in the plan and in Nuss's decision making when he committed.

He has one chance in college to build enough tape to get drafted and an NFL team to commit a couple of years of a roster spot to his development. So yes LSUs decision adversely affected Nuss’s position and ability to make the next level. He now has to make a plan to overcome that which most would say is to find a place to get on the field and build tape and not to gamble with your future by hoping Daniels gets hurt so you can play as the coaching staff clearly likes Daniels at this point.

These are business decisions for qbs like Nuss. Not emotional or sentimental or based on fandom. Also remember his dad is the an coach for the Cowboys. They understand the value of tape for NFL scouts.

This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:48 pm to
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Kelly and Dembrock think Daniels is better


Apparently the players on the team were pretty high on Daniels as well since he was voted MVP. So, we have the offensive staff high on Daniels, the players high on Daniels but a few of the fans think some guy who in reality hasn’t done much of anything to distinguish himself should play more or is even better. It’s not much of a call for me to make because I’m going with the guys who coach the game and the guys who currently play the game.

If Nuss doesn’t want to wait his turn or willing to compete,
that’s his decision to make.

Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56183 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:54 pm to
Daniels will get injured again this coming year, simply due to his style of play. I’d tell nuss to be honest with himself….if he thinks he can beat out Howard for the chance to play when that happens, I’ say to stay. If he honestly doesn’t think he can beat out Howard to back up Daniels, I’d transfer.

He knows where he ranks in the depth chart….he is the only one that can make that decision.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9310 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:10 pm to
Part of Daniels development and a big reason he is staying is so that he can develop his pocket passing and skills reading defenses. You can bet the coaches agreed to build an offense around his strength and develop his weaknesses to make him more marketable in the NFL.

So I would expect him to run less next year and lean more on his receivers. They also probably expect the OL to be better next year and to have a more consistent run game.

A freak injury can happen any play. Or you can go your entire career without an injury, for a back-up to "bet" his future on an injury would be questionable.
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