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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:21 am to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:21 am to
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And the welfare state that brings them here to begin with? Do you think the Republicans currently in congress would vote to end it? I can think of maybe two: Rand Paul and Thomas Massie.




Ahhh, utopia. The refuge of libertarians everywhere. Yes, ending the welfare state, especially for criminal illegals, is a wonderful, encouraging pipe dream. How many liberals, both democrat and republican are you willing to kill to get it done?
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:03 pm to
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Ahhh, utopia. The refuge of libertarians everywhere. Yes, ending the welfare state, especially for criminal illegals, is a wonderful, encouraging pipe dream.


One can get an in-depth clinic on the "libertarian" world vision just by listening to Free Talk Live.

We get it here on 990am every Saturday morning. If you can tolerate it long enough.

After enough exposure to it, they come across as liberals on Prozac.

It's perfectly alright to want as little governmental interference as can possibly be tolerated and still keep the society viable and - most importantly - safe.

Which just doesn't seem to be possible under a theoretical system dominated by libertarians.

Which according to what we've heard on that show for years is a society that tolerates unfettered drug use and open borders.

Listening to Free Talk Live, it's difficult to figure what political concepts, tenets they draw from.

Of all the available Western philosophers, they most seem to identify with Rousseau, who spoke of the "state of Nature," which in its purest form, a society one minor level above what is depicted in Lord of the Flies.

He is the only western philosopher we've heard mentioned on that show.

But it doesn't stop there. Rousseau was also the most referenced Western philosopher - after Freud - by the displaced Gramscian émigrés we were gifted with here from Frankfurt in the '30s. At least they also included Kant and Nietzsche as afterthoughts.

They only sought philosophers to add to their psychological arsenal that they viewed as most potentially destructive to western society.

Prior to that dubious group, Rousseau was also the most preferred western philosopher among the Jacobins. Another "humanitarian" group that numbered among its members Robespierre, Saint Just, Marat, and de Sade.

So whether Rousseau consciously meant to portray that the highest aspiration of a society is "license," it's how the neo-Marxians viewed it.

But then their thing was revisionism unlimited.

Other than all that, what's wrong with the picture we continue to get from libertarians.

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