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re: CJ agrees to 2 year 64 million dollar extension
Posted on 9/24/22 at 2:49 pm to cgrand
Posted on 9/24/22 at 2:49 pm to cgrand
I don't understand why they needed to do this now. He has never played with Zion and this is the first season he will ever play PG full time. So much could go sideways.
At worst, he will be a solid rotational guard. So I don't believe he'll ever go negative value. But he is a number 3 on the team, will hopefully be 4-5 in two seasons.
I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years. So Dyson Daniels can never start for this team (once we extend Jones). He will get minimum minutes and we all wonder why he is a bust..
At worst, he will be a solid rotational guard. So I don't believe he'll ever go negative value. But he is a number 3 on the team, will hopefully be 4-5 in two seasons.
I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years. So Dyson Daniels can never start for this team (once we extend Jones). He will get minimum minutes and we all wonder why he is a bust..
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Posted on 9/24/22 at 2:53 pm to brmark70816
I have never agreed with a single thing that you have ever said. It’s actually pretty impressive.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 3:04 pm to brmark70816
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I don't understand why they needed to do this now
I'm shocked
Posted on 9/24/22 at 3:13 pm to brmark70816
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I don't understand why they needed to do this now.
A market like New Orleans has to do it now because if they let him play out this year he’ll be an expiring. There’s no way he agrees to 2 years next summer so you either do a 3 year extension which puts you in the same place anyway . However, if he has a good year there’s a good chance he decides to play it out and go to free agency.
Once that happens he can always leave and it’s almost certain the Pels will have to give him good money over 4 years to keep him. When have you ever seen a coveted unrestricted FA sign just a two year deal? So with this new deal CJ needs to give you 3 good years and if his play starts to slip you’ll have a 32 million expiring that you can package assets with to swing a big trade in year 4. If you don’t do this deal the 2 most likely scenarios are CJ walks for nothing 2 years for now or you have to pay him in the range of 120 million over 4 years and instead of hoping he can play well until he’s 34 you’re hoping he can hold on to 36 and if it turns negative you’ll have an albatross for most of BIs and Zion’s primes.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 3:47 pm to brmark70816
quote:you need to get laid
brmark70816
ASAP
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:04 pm to brmark70816
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I don't understand why they needed to do this now. He has never played with Zion and this is the first season he will ever play PG full time. So much could go sideways.
So then don't make him full time, you still get kept a 20/5/5 guard who was a net neutral to barely net negative at worst defensively.
This now gets you 3 years of figuring out contenders/pretenders instead of 1.
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At worst, he will be a solid rotational guard. So I don't believe he'll ever go negative value. But he is a number 3 on the team, will hopefully be 4-5 in two seasons.
And that's fine. If he's #4 or 5, that means Dyson Daniels, TM3, or Herb have become extremely elite offensively. Right now he's at worst your 3rd best option, with the skillset to be the best on some nights. This isn't a Bosh situation or Love situation for Lebron/Dwade or Lebron/Kyrie.
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I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years. So Dyson Daniels can never start for this team (once we extend Jones). He will get minimum minutes and we all wonder why he is a bust..
Because this allows stability and flexibility.
You said so yourself. At worst he's never have a net negative value. This allows you to ship him off in 2 years to get something in return (if dyson is the real deal), as opposed to letting him walk and you not being able to use the money for anything.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:43 pm to brmark70816
quote:Because you're only thinking of it in one direction, "sideways"
I don't understand why they needed to do this now. He has never played with Zion and this is the first season he will ever play PG full time. So much could go sideways
If things go extremely well, then he'd cost a shite ton more, that's the other side you're not factoring in.
quote:They aren't remotely the same player.
I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years
quote:So we shouldn't try to have more than 5 good players?
So Dyson Daniels can never start for this team (once we extend Jones). He will get minimum minutes and we all wonder why he is a bust..
Posted on 9/24/22 at 5:02 pm to brmark70816
quote:Explain to me why he cannot start? Didn't Lillard and CJ start together or are you pigeon-holing players into a specific position based on your pre-conceived ideas?
I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years. So Dyson Daniels can never start for this team (once we extend Jones). He will get minimum minutes and we all wonder why he is a bust..
Posted on 9/24/22 at 7:07 pm to brmark70816
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I don't understand drafting a guy top 10 and then signing a guy to play the same position for the next 4 years.
This is like the tenth time it has been explained to you that "positions" is not really an important thing anymore in the NBA.
And, even if it were still a thing, you even mention that CJ has played SG all his career. So, they could still play together.
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