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How involved was our own federal government with 9-11?
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:11 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:11 am
Do you think:
1) They were completely involved. It was their plan from the beginning.
2) They knew about it, but wasnt their plan. They just allowed it to happen
3) They didn't know about it. There was no malice, but there was incompetence, they (federal agencies) were aware of Atta and all the terrorists and who they were. But because of PC reasons and incompetence, they didn't follow up with them as they should have.
4) Completely unaware. Bin Laden pulled the entire thing off under their noses, and they had no idea about these guys or what they might be planning.
1) They were completely involved. It was their plan from the beginning.
2) They knew about it, but wasnt their plan. They just allowed it to happen
3) They didn't know about it. There was no malice, but there was incompetence, they (federal agencies) were aware of Atta and all the terrorists and who they were. But because of PC reasons and incompetence, they didn't follow up with them as they should have.
4) Completely unaware. Bin Laden pulled the entire thing off under their noses, and they had no idea about these guys or what they might be planning.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:50 am
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:14 am to burger bearcat
21 years ago, I figured it was #3.
Today?
Today?
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:18 am to burger bearcat
5) they didn’t know anything because Bill Clinton balanced the budget by decimating the military and cut spending and support for such useless military practices as foreign intelligence/ counter intelligence.
But hey he got a hummer in the Oval Office so all’s good right.
But hey he got a hummer in the Oval Office so all’s good right.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:23 am to burger bearcat
4: never underestimate the incompetence of these people. Now this is specifically the events of that day. They did know al qaeda was dangerous and failed to do anything
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:29 am to burger bearcat
4 , I'm not an idiot.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:35 am to burger bearcat
Used to be #2. The last 7 years have put me squarely in #1. The American political class is thoroughly and irredeemably evil.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:42 am to burger bearcat
4, I don’t believe conspiracy theories.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:50 am to burger bearcat
I’ll go with #3.
Overall incompetence and lack of inter-agency communication and follow up.
FFS they had flight instructors dropping complaints that these guys are just training to fly and not land.
But Saudi Arabia was way more involved than we’ll ever be told. Can’t make your main supplier of oil angry by actually prosecuting the financiers of the whole thing.
Overall incompetence and lack of inter-agency communication and follow up.
FFS they had flight instructors dropping complaints that these guys are just training to fly and not land.
But Saudi Arabia was way more involved than we’ll ever be told. Can’t make your main supplier of oil angry by actually prosecuting the financiers of the whole thing.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 7:58 am to burger bearcat
A combination of 2 and 3.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 8:36 am to burger bearcat
4 dancing Israelis say #1.
Also, the only things that became of it are the Orwellian surveillance laws and an entire department of the government used to enforce them, not to mention the massive expenditure of military hardware and resources that has produced NOTHING. The exact same people are once again in charge of Afghanistan and terrorists have been released back into the wild.
Totally orchestrated.
Also, the only things that became of it are the Orwellian surveillance laws and an entire department of the government used to enforce them, not to mention the massive expenditure of military hardware and resources that has produced NOTHING. The exact same people are once again in charge of Afghanistan and terrorists have been released back into the wild.
Totally orchestrated.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 8:50 am to burger bearcat
Before the event, 3 or 4.
After the event they covered up all sorts of shite to protect the camel humpers in SA.
After the event they covered up all sorts of shite to protect the camel humpers in SA.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 8:51 am to burger bearcat
Elements of 2, most likely.
Just look back at who has benefited the most from what happened. It wasn't the Bush family specifically. But BIG GOV certainly has expanded and become more intrusive.
On all fronts.
How safe did Americans in big cities feel during the Summer of Love?
All that tracking of terrorists and violent offenders went awol. Full acquittals of those who firebombed gov buildings, looted stores, destroyed property...
But magically, grandma who took a stroll on the Capitol lawn is now a number one threat to our democracy???
Just look back at who has benefited the most from what happened. It wasn't the Bush family specifically. But BIG GOV certainly has expanded and become more intrusive.
On all fronts.
How safe did Americans in big cities feel during the Summer of Love?
All that tracking of terrorists and violent offenders went awol. Full acquittals of those who firebombed gov buildings, looted stores, destroyed property...
But magically, grandma who took a stroll on the Capitol lawn is now a number one threat to our democracy???
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:06 am to burger bearcat
Anyone who says they’d never do a thing like that has no knowledge of operation northwoods.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:07 am to burger bearcat
We know for a FACT:
1) The FBI and intelligence agencies had been warned about multiple of the 19 hijackers and that extremists were planning to fly planes into buildings
2) The Bush's played a HUGE role and getting multiple Saudi families (including members of the Bin Laden family) out of the country in the aftermath.
Those are facts and are not up for dispute.
As another posted stated, due to what we've learned about how absolutely corrupt and evil E V E R Y facet of our government is the last 6 years or so I would have ZERO problem believing the gov't was absolutely involved or at a very minimum complicit.
Just look at all the "freedoms" we lost due to 9/11 .
1) The FBI and intelligence agencies had been warned about multiple of the 19 hijackers and that extremists were planning to fly planes into buildings
2) The Bush's played a HUGE role and getting multiple Saudi families (including members of the Bin Laden family) out of the country in the aftermath.
Those are facts and are not up for dispute.
As another posted stated, due to what we've learned about how absolutely corrupt and evil E V E R Y facet of our government is the last 6 years or so I would have ZERO problem believing the gov't was absolutely involved or at a very minimum complicit.
Just look at all the "freedoms" we lost due to 9/11 .
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:15 am to burger bearcat
The real conspiracy concerning 9/11 was the concerted efforts of the Bureaucratic State to hide/destroy evidence that would incriminate the FBI and other government intelligence agencies. The collective intelligence of the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. was sufficient to thwart the 9/11 attacks but those agencies are too compartmentalized and they didn’t share information….Sandy Berger knows.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:33 am to burger bearcat
quote:
How involved was our own federal government with 9-11?
Ask Barbara Olsen.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:21 am to burger bearcat
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:22 am to burger bearcat
I hope with all I can that it is #3, I fear it is closer to #1 or #2.
I really, really think there is a crooked arse agreement with the House of Saud to cover up their very direct involvement to keep cheap oil flowing and like all deals with the devil it failed.
I really, really think there is a crooked arse agreement with the House of Saud to cover up their very direct involvement to keep cheap oil flowing and like all deals with the devil it failed.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:34 am to burger bearcat
Used to be #3. I admit I was pretty naive. Now? I think likely #1 or #2.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:35 am to burger bearcat
I've always been #3.
But, who TF knows. These people are evil scum.
But, who TF knows. These people are evil scum.
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