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re: Is requiring Liability Insurance for gun owners an infringement on gun owner rights?

Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:49 pm to
Would you have to carry insurance on the uninsured gun owners (criminals )
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5027 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:50 pm to
chalmetteowl, you have fallen for the liberal gun takers logic.
Driving a car is a privilege.
Owning a gun is a constitutional right and not a privilege.

Is there any other constitutional right that is infringed on more than the 2nd amendment?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:53 pm to
99.9% of incidents involving people being shot probably involve people and circumstances that insurance companies wouldn't cover. Kind of like life insurance policies don't cover suicide.
I apologize, explain my point poorly.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:55 pm to
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We require liability on our cars so that’s no different. If they catch you without it, well you basically no longer have a car


Insurance is required to drive on public roadways....not to have the car kept on your private property
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16646 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:01 pm to
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My view of the 2nd Amendment is broader than 99% of the population. I think it prevents the federal government from interfering with ownership of anything short of tanks and artillery.



My view is broader than that, so go frick yourself Hank.


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And sometimes not. And lots of folks do not have such a policy. Last, it is reasonable to think that any such requirement would give credit for a rider on your homeowners policy.


They probably have no need of such a policy too. I don't have earthquake coverage and it would be stupid to mandate that I should have it. Much like this idea is for gun owners.


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London will write anything for the right money, but this is generally correct. It would be a new category of insurance, and it would almost certainly be "no-fault" insurance, much like the PIP coverage on your auto insurance.


No, in fact many of the largest insurance companies have expressly stated that such mandates are a bad idea and wouldn't write policies. There are only a bare handfull that cover DGU's. You have yet to provide any substantial evidence to support the notion that this would be "good policy".

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My top-10 JD against your GED.


I've done vastly more that a GED, and your Top-10 is bullshite since you are obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel in your class. More likely scraping the last tiny crumbs of caramel popcorn...

This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1879 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Is requiring Liability Insurance for gun owners an infringement on gun owner rights?


Does the Pope help paedophiles get away with their crimes?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5669 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:37 pm to
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We require liability on our cars so that’s no different.


Please tell me and the rest of the board that you are not this ignorant I beg of you
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64783 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:39 pm to
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We require liability on our cars so that’s no different.


Go back to school.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21833 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Is requiring Liability Insurance for gun owners an infringement on gun owner rights?


Only if requiring Liability Insurance to fund voter fraud investigations should they be necessary is an infringement on voting rights.
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Guns are NOT registered.



All my guns are registered. It's the law.



Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
603 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:35 pm to
Not to you Bayou.

Driving a Car is a right, not a privilege. As said so by the SCOTUS on multiple occasions. Most notably;

Thompson v. Smith: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guaranty one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another’s rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct."

There are plenty of other rulings and precedents. If you want to know what they are, do your research. I gave you a great starting point with Thompson v. Smith.

This is not a response to flame anyone, but if you all don't know and understand your RIGHTS, you will lose them.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64783 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:45 pm to
We are so fricked by every branch of our government.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64783 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:47 pm to
I do not see where they took away the Right of the State to demand you have insurance.

How I read that is we are all allowed to have that access to public roads.

Is this also stating drivers are a protected class?

Everyone has a 'right' to drive unless you don't qualify eh.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6913 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Thompson v. Smith: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways a


In 1973 SCOTUS created the 'right' to abortion as well... now they are poised to reverse course..... if it can be created and then substantially altered, or made to go away it sounds like less of a right and more of a privilege.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45257 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:12 pm to
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We require liability on our cars so that’s no different.


except that I don't think the constitution specifies your right to own a car.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49099 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Same thing as a poll tax.


If we could get a poll tax I would buy gun owners insurance in a heartbeat.

2k a year for each is a good number
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99407 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:26 pm to
Require people to have insurance to vote.

There's your answer.
Posted by Iowatiger209
Pleasant Hill, IA
Member since May 2021
722 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:29 pm to
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We require liability on our cars so that’s no different. If they catch you without it, well you basically no longer have a car


Pretty sure the government doesn’t take your car if you don’t have insurance. You will get a citation, but they don’t take it.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5669 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Driving a Car is a right, not a privilege.


You are another idiot apparently without any comprehension

Driving is a privilege

Travel is a right.

Can you figure out the difference?
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