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Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:17 am to Ole Boy
I hate NIL and having to root for my favorite school to offer the best best NIL deals. It doesn't seem sustainable.
Players should be able to make money off their own name, but not with this pay for play type of deals. And that doesn't mean you hate capitalism. I just like to see college sports maintain some sort of amateurism and the scholarships meaning something.
Players should be able to make money off their own name, but not with this pay for play type of deals. And that doesn't mean you hate capitalism. I just like to see college sports maintain some sort of amateurism and the scholarships meaning something.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:18 am to Ole Boy
I agree with his general premise but there is a disconnect in his logic. Is he saying that college football coaches can be traded simply because they are professionals with a contract?That’s not how it works and it’s not an automatic stipulation.
The reason pros can be traded is because that’s outlined in the league rules and the league is a franchise model.
I would hate for college players to have actual contracts. But the existence of those contracts wouldnt automatically create trades.
The reason pros can be traded is because that’s outlined in the league rules and the league is a franchise model.
I would hate for college players to have actual contracts. But the existence of those contracts wouldnt automatically create trades.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:27 am to Hester Carries
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I agree with his general premise but there is a disconnect in his logic. Is he saying that college football coaches can be traded simply because they are professionals with a contract?That’s not how it works and it’s not an automatic stipulation.
The reason pros can be traded is because that’s outlined in the league rules and the league is a franchise model.
I would hate for college players to have actual contracts. But the existence of those contracts wouldnt automatically create trades.
I think what he is saying is kids are signing NIL "contracts".. and maybe those contracts will start having the NIL (and athlete) traded to another school.
Of course, the government will step in and try to put a guideline on it, but there will always be backdoor deals going on.
2019 was the last true season.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:29 am to Ole Boy
The NCAA could fix this quickly and decisively, (and the players won't like it) by going to a monthly stipend. Just like they do with ROTC midshipmen & cadets:
$XXX Fr yr
$XXX Soph yr
$XXX Jr yr
$XXX Sr yr
The NCAA could establish a committee of university presidents, AD's, comptrollers, and attorneys to formulate what those amounts are, with increases built-in every year/few years. They would develop a tier-system pay scale, for a lack of better words, for individual sports: football, basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. These pay scales would apply to ALL DIV I schools competing in that sport.
The current NIL system is only going to get more bastardized and further erode college athletics.
$XXX Fr yr
$XXX Soph yr
$XXX Jr yr
$XXX Sr yr
The NCAA could establish a committee of university presidents, AD's, comptrollers, and attorneys to formulate what those amounts are, with increases built-in every year/few years. They would develop a tier-system pay scale, for a lack of better words, for individual sports: football, basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. These pay scales would apply to ALL DIV I schools competing in that sport.
The current NIL system is only going to get more bastardized and further erode college athletics.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:31 am to HC87
quote:
The NCAA could fix this quickly and decisively, (and the players won't like it) by going to a monthly stipend. Just like they do with ROTC midshipmen & cadets:
$XXX Fr yr
$XXX Soph yr
$XXX Jr yr
$XXX Sr yr
The NCAA could establish a committee of university presidents, AD's, comptrollers, and attorneys to formulate what those amounts are, with increases built-in every year/few years. They would develop a tier-system pay scale, for a lack of better words, for individual sports: football, basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. These pay scales would apply to ALL DIV I schools competing in that sport.
The current NIL system is only going to get more bastardized and further erode college athletics.
This has nothing to do with NIL. Apples and oranges.
Why isn't a full scholarship enough?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:35 am to Melvin
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Millionaire coaches upset they have to work harder. Poor babies
Melvin the filthy populist with another jealous take. Commies are jealous people.
Sorry about Bernie, bro.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:48 am to Ole Boy
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Brian Kelly says NIL has turned into a runaway train.
Who cares? Somebody, some politician, some director or lawyer, please stop this NIL stuff for Brian.
Ooops, sorry, I thought I was on SEC Rant.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:59 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:54 am to Melvin
Melvin Melvin Melvin. So much fail you dumbass!!!
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:54 am to beauchristopher
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It doesn't seem sustainable.
It isn't. Expect smaller schools to drop the sport or drop in classification. They already lose money on football
Nothing wrong with a star athlete making money doing promotions, however that's not what is happening.
But that is how it was meant to be.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:59 am to Ole Boy
They should have capped it from jump street.If everyone is working with the same $35-50k a year cap per player,and you fixed the transfer portal and its stupidity.Then college could remain decent.The path they are on now you eventually will rather watch the NFL.This is going to be a bunch of cry baby 18-20 year old drama queens making a mockery of the system chasing dollars and not worried about their futures.Instead of working hard to make the NFL where the real money is at, many will not know how to act with money at 18 years old and it will cost them their futures.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:17 pm to HC87
quote:
The NCAA could fix this quickly and decisively, (and the players won't like it) by going to a monthly stipend. Just like they do with ROTC midshipmen & cadets:
$XXX Fr yr
$XXX Soph yr
$XXX Jr yr
$XXX Sr yr
The NCAA could establish a committee of university presidents, AD's, comptrollers, and attorneys to formulate what those amounts are, with increases built-in every year/few years. They would develop a tier-system pay scale, for a lack of better words, for individual sports: football, basketball, baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. These pay scales would apply to ALL DIV I schools competing in that sport.
The current NIL system is only going to get more bastardized and further erode college athletics.
I've been saying something like this for years...tie the stipend to what ROTC cadets get...
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:29 pm to Alt26
Change the one free transfer rule. Make it so that all transfers have to sit out the second half of the year. You'll calm NIL bullshite quite a bit like that. What coach is going to waste his time on a guy that can't play after the second week of October?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:59 pm to CP3LSU25
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t’s a shame Texas A&M had to cheat to try and become relevant in football.
quote:you just outed yourself, nick
CP3LSU25
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:19 pm to Ole Boy
For the first time in a long time, we have an HC who thinks before he speaks and can articulate coherent thoughts. I find it refreshing. Loved Coach O and what he accomplished and all the credit to him for bringing us 2019. The time is right at LSU for this type of professional.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:39 pm to Ole Boy
Most universities do not make money on their athletic departments.
I'm in a minority, I know, but I am completely against NIL.
The idea that these kids are entitled to the money ignores the fact that they already got free tuition, free rooms, the best food service, free tutoring, and the worship from other college students. Top it all off by possibly getting a multi-million-dollar job straight out of college, even without a degree.
I'm in a minority, I know, but I am completely against NIL.
The idea that these kids are entitled to the money ignores the fact that they already got free tuition, free rooms, the best food service, free tutoring, and the worship from other college students. Top it all off by possibly getting a multi-million-dollar job straight out of college, even without a degree.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:52 pm to Ole Boy
I'm all for college athletes profiting on their own name, image, and likeness through agreements with businesses that use the athletes' names, images, and likenesses for legitimate business purposes (e.g., Gordon). That is the spirit of NIL.
Where it went off the rails is when investors form business entities for the sole purpose of funneling in dark money to the athletes for no legitimate business purpose (other than signing with a particular school).
Where it went off the rails is when investors form business entities for the sole purpose of funneling in dark money to the athletes for no legitimate business purpose (other than signing with a particular school).
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:56 pm to Alt26
quote:I mean, they are students, and they are athletes.
The only reason the players are "student-athletes" is because the rules artificially keep them as such.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:59 pm to Ole Boy
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:05 pm to Ole Boy
He’s right in everything he says. However, as we all know, the driving force behind no one making changes to this stuff is litigation. Eventually, the players will have contracts and have someone representing them for collective bargaining like a professional sports league. Otherwise, any attempts at making changes will end up in court and people opposing players rights in any way will lose.
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