re: UK All Cause Mortality Data by Vax Status

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That's the problem. You equate flawed systems with someone who is outright attempting to deceive you.

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I really hope you're not this obtuse and that you're just trolling a bit on this message board for entertainment purposes. We all do it, so no harm, no foul - but just an FYI: you're coming across like an ignorant true believer. If you're just f'n around here, you should have pulled up much shorter than this point.

So I'll state the obvious: you are utterly retarded if you don't understand that the CDC, Pfizer/pharma, and even politically driven entities like the media, teacher unions, etc. have been outright attempting to deceive all of us.

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Who in their right mind trusts the pharmaceutical industry? But the studies being produced aren't the industry - they're independent researchers. Again and again (and again and again and again), they prove my words and show the error in yours.

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Covid-19 kills kids. At a lower rate than adults, but it kills them. The vaccine can prevent that. And it (if/when approved) will have shown no undue risk to the child.

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Name the studies that establish kids as at substantial risk for Covid death or serious illness in numbers that would justify vaccinating them all.

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That's fact, and your feelings on the vaccine won't change it.

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Actual facts related to Covid are as rare as the rational Biden voter. They're like unicorns and well-officiated NBA games.

And you don't know my feelings on the vaccines. In fact, I don't have feelings about the vaccines. It's instructive that you think like this.

Moreover, the only position I have on vaccines is that they're unnecessary for my family and nearly all of my friends because with a few exceptions, none of us are really old & weak, very obese or already very unwell. I've not gotten twisted up about vaccine safety or effectiveness because the virus itself is not what it's been hyped to be. In other words, I haven't been fooled like you have been.

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Name the studies that establish kids as at substantial risk for Covid death or serious illness in numbers that would justify vaccinating them all.

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LINK

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the CDC, Pfizer/pharma, and even politically driven entities like the media, teacher unions, etc. have been outright attempting to deceive all of us.

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Conflating imperfect systems (when the original data are available) with an outright lie is absurd. Teacher's unions aren't claiming a 1600-fold mortality rate if kids have to do things the unions don't want to do, unlike the OP.

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Actual facts related to Covid

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Exist, and largely contraindicate your errors.

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And you don't know my feelings on the vaccines. In fact, I don't have feelings about the vaccines.....Moreover, the only position I have on vaccines is that they're unnecessary for my family and nearly all of my friends

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So you do or don't have feelings on vaccines? Looks a bit like you do, champ.

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Name the studies that establish kids as at substantial risk for Covid death or serious illness in numbers that would justify vaccinating them all.
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You just linked a study that concludes:

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Children with comorbidities have a higher risk of severe COVID-19 and associated mortality than children without underlying disease. Additional studies are required to further evaluate this relationship.

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There is nothing to pull from this study that would lead a reasonable person to believe there should be compulsory vaccination of children for Covid.

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Conflating imperfect systems (when the original data are available) with an outright lie is absurd.

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I'll give you an A for the dedication you have for Lefty BS.

When a "system" is designed to give biased data, it's not "imperfect" - it's a system designed to deceive.

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Exist, and largely contraindicate your errors.

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What's the Covid mortality rate for healthy/fit individuals under the age of 50? Only actual Covid deaths should be considered - so in other words, don't include the 25K "Covid deaths" that involved intentional and unintentional injury or drug OD, or the heart attack victims that had asymptomatic/mild Covid, etc.

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So you do or don't have feelings on vaccines? Looks a bit like you do, champ.

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See, that's the difference between Leftists and normal people. I don't have to imagine you think/feel things you don't, and in fact I don't want to. I'm perfectly content responding to the actual BS you think/post. But because it's difficult on your belief system, you can't imagine a person with views different from yours that isn't some whackjob tinfoil hat conspiratorialist.

I didn't have to get any farther on vaccines than knowing I didn't need any help to personally deal with Covid, and that was also true for my family. By extension, I know that unless you're very old and weak, very obese or already very sick (with cancer, for example), Covid is nothing a bad flu is.

My arguments around Covid are all about the virus itself - what it is, what it's not, and how ridiculous the response to the pandemic has been.

The child is posting links in the hopes we’ll take the same course of action that she does.. not read them.

John Hopkins researchers as of Q3 ‘21 has not identified a single death among ages 0-17 in the US that involved a case without severe comorbidity.

Do you think maybe unhealthy people are more likely to get the vaccine?

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I honestly didn't realize some of you still didn't grasp the concept of herd immunity this far into the pandemic. That's impressive.

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I was fully aware Democrats don’t understand the concept of a moral hazard.

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I honestly didn't realize some of you still didn't grasp the concept of herd immunity this far into the pandemic. That's impressive.

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You say this like the vaccine prevents the spread of infection.

You say this like you don't believe natural immunity is a real thing, not to mention the far superior thing.

You say this like you believe morons like the ones you follow/support are capable of anything but fricking up about 85% of everything they touch.

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That's one of the dumbest things you've said, and that's not an easy feat for you.

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Provided they're intelligent enough to think their way out of a wet paper bag, it will be pretty clear to anyone misfortunate enough to read through this thread which one of us is the hopeless retard.

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Some states (e.g. Florida) went to great lengths to conceal their hospitalizations and deaths.

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False. You fell for fake news and a phony “whistle blower”