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Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:18 pm to dgnx6
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You mean seasonal.
Not strictly, given the timing of the delta wave.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:21 pm to David_DJS
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I'm arguing that you should have approached all the Covid cheerleading stats with the same level of scrutiny you did this study
I'm arguing that I did, but that the studies in support of the vaccines were good and withstood scrutiny.
Unlike this one, which is clearly bullshite.
That's the difference - there is a clear correct side and a clear incorrect side given the mountain of evidence for support vs the inaccurate bullshite against.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:36 pm to BamaAtl
Are you trying to say dying from Covid is worse than dying from a myocardial event caused by the jab? Are there different degrees of dead?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:40 pm to BurntOrangeMan
But if 1600 teens die to save one it was worth it! C’mon man!
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:41 pm to BamaAtl
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Unlike this one, which is clearly bullshite.
That's the difference - there is a clear correct side and a clear incorrect side given the mountain of evidence for support vs the inaccurate bullshite against.
Enjoy your lymphoma
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:43 pm to bamadontcare
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They just get more hysterical with each release of the effects of the poison.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:46 pm to BamaAtl
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What makes you think I haven't? Nothing's perfect, but only one side of this is outright lying to you.
Let me guess: you’re stupid enough to believe that’s not the side that says vaccines are completely safe, vaccines prevent infection and spread of the virus, masks work, and people that die in car accidents and test positive for covid after should be counted as covid deaths.
You progressive lunatics have got to be the dumbest group of people in the history of this planet.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:49 pm to BamaAtl
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I’m not sure your advice to disregard the scientific method is the best course
A progressive lunatic talking about others disregarding the scientific method
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:23 am to BamaAtl
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I'm arguing that I did, but that the studies in support of the vaccines were good and withstood scrutiny.
There is nothing skeptical or remotely scientific about accepting the word of an industry that has paid $35B in fines over the last ten years for lying and cheating to get drugs approved by the FDA.
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Unlike this one, which is clearly bullshite.
It’s no more BS than what the CDC has reported on Covid. It’s no more BS than what you’ve been told to believe about the vaccines.
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That's the difference - there is a clear correct side and a clear incorrect side given the mountain of evidence for support vs the inaccurate bullshite against.
You can post this a hundred more times and it won’t make it true. You have bought into the Covid/vaccines narrative hook, line and sinker.
Why do you think one of the most corrupt/dishonest industries in the world that proves over and over again how unethical it is suddenly became trustworthy on some magical day in 2020?
If all of this is confusing to you, think about this one thing - consider what the CDC, pharma, big medicine has said and done regarding getting the vaccines injected into kids. There is zero benefit/justification for vaccinating kids for Covid. It’s insane. Why would you trust any of these people/entities?
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:51 am to BamaAtl
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What those data do show match up with the RCTs done on the vaccines - they're safe and effective at preventing severe outcomes (including death) from covid-19.
A vaccine is given to protect from infection, not to be safe and effective and reduce symptoms, that's the talking point the CDC, WHO, and all the talking head shoved down every bodies throat, including yours
They knew from the outset what the vaccines were gonna do, and have been exposed,and now they are trying to cover their asses, They've all gotten shite filthy rich at the expense of the public
Not one of these frickers has taken the shot, and IF any one of em gets sick you can bet your arse they take Ivermecton HCQ, and follow the protocol that all the quack doctors have been advocating, and if YOU are anybody else believes otherwise is a fool for thinking they're out for our safety
Posted on 5/11/22 at 4:21 am to BamaAtl
quote:You've chosen to argue and insult without simply explaining why the data review is flawed.
Unlike this one, which is clearly bullshite.
Why?
First do no harm. Your choice of immediately employing incendiary innuendos instead of statistical and/or scientific explanations is harmful.
When you repeatedly post vacuous drivel in these medical threads, readers here logically conclude you're either incompetent/insecure about actually making a case on a public messageboard (even within your own claimed area of expertise), or you're being deliberately evasive and dishonest.
Is it so hard, for example, to point out that a CV19 Vax is obviously not responsible for most "all-cause mortality data" deaths as erroneously attributed by Kirsch?
Instead of deliberately inflaming, how about doing your job, and clarifying what it is that you think you know. Virology/epidemiology is supposed to be dead center in your wheelhouse. So you disagree with Kirsch's analysis? Your disagreement in this case is not misplaced, so make your case!
Posted on 5/11/22 at 5:28 am to BamaAtl
So my tinfoil hat worked yet again!
Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:34 am to BamaAtl
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but that the studies in support of the vaccines were good and withstood scrutiny.
This isn’t serious.
Pfizer had thousands of presumed but unconfirmed cases of Covid in their trial that they buried away in their report.
Of those thousands, over 800 never even got a PCR test because their test sites were “understaffed.”
Compare that to the total number of confirmed Covid cases in the study, both vaxxed and control, which was under 180.
It’s a joke of a study and should have been tossed into the rubbish bin upon delivery with a derisive laugh.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:36 am to David_DJS
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It’s no more BS than what the CDC has reported on Covid.
That's the problem. You equate flawed systems with someone who is outright attempting to deceive you.
They're not the same.
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Why do you think one of the most corrupt/dishonest industries in the world that proves over and over again how unethical it is suddenly became trustworthy on some magical day in 2020?
Who in their right mind trusts the pharmaceutical industry? But the studies being produced aren't the industry - they're independent researchers. Again and again (and again and again and again), they prove my words and show the error in yours.
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There is zero benefit/justification for vaccinating kids for Covid.
Covid-19 kills kids. At a lower rate than adults, but it kills them. The vaccine can prevent that. And it (if/when approved) will have shown no undue risk to the child. That's fact, and your feelings on the vaccine won't change it.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:39 am to J8mmyBob01
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A vaccine is given to protect from infection, not to be safe and effective and reduce symptoms
That's incorrect. Vaccines are given to help increase an individual's immune response in the event of infection. Often this results in no symptoms and a decreased viral load such that you can't transmit to another individual, but not always. Reduced capacity to spread and mitigation of severe outcomes means it's a good vaccine.
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Not one of these frickers has taken the shot
Almost every member of the House (including Republicans), every member of the Senate, and almost everyone who works at Fox News has taken the vaccine (and been boosted). Those then turning around and warning you against the vaccine are doing it because they want your money and know you're gullible.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:41 am to NC_Tigah
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You've chosen to argue and insult without simply explaining why the data review is flawed.
Why?
You must have missed the post where I detailed exactly why not only the results were wrong, but even attempting this 'study' in this way was a mistake.
Perhaps in the future you should endeavor to correctly orient yourself to the situation before you make some incorrect assumptions, hmm?
edit: it's on page 2, so you didn't even read that far before you threw a fit this time.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:51 am to BamaAtl
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Covid-19 kills kids. At a lower rate than adults, but it kills them. The vaccine can prevent that. And it (if/when approved) will have shown no undue risk to the child. That's fact, and your feelings on the vaccine won't change it.
Like most of what youve posted in this thread, literally none of this is fact.
You end your posts by saying ‘that’s a fact, your emotions aren’t’ doesn’t make it true.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:32 am to Open Your Eyes
Absolutely the dumbest and most delusional. It's a cult of idiocy. They are committed and need to be.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
quote:While your claim that "everyone who works at Fox News" are money-grubbing bastards who would promote anti-vaxx stories to get ratings (just like at every other news organization is promoting the vaxx to get ratings), I'm not sure why Congress people would profit from 'warning you against the vaccine'.
Almost every member of the House (including Republicans), every member of the Senate, and almost everyone who works at Fox News has taken the vaccine (and been boosted). Those then turning around and warning you against the vaccine are doing it because they want your money and know you're gullible.
Is there some sort of huge, well-funded anti-vaxx lobbying organization that is funneling money to DC politicians? I mean, at a higher rate than Pfizer, Moderna, the AMA, the insurance companies, and all the other corporate entities that are enjoying obscene profits at taxpayer expense from the Feds' COVID response?
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:38 am
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