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re: Why do liberals get so upset over abortion?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:29 am to brett408
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:29 am to brett408
Honest answer.
I do not believe that is a living human being in the first trimester or so. I think it is a fetus and not really much more.
Is it living? I don't know, but yeah probably.
Is it a human being? Not to me.
That is part of it.
Second major part is I believe a woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don't think you or I should be forced to give blood or an organ to save some ones life and a woman should not be forced to user her body for a fetus.
I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug? Absolutely even though it will kill someone else.
All this to say, I am male with kids and my wife nor myself would ever have an abortion. But I also believe people should have the choice for the reasons above.
Where I get a little away from it is past the first trimester, I do think there should be limits. I hope for a time in our lifetimes where medical science can take the fetus out as early as 6 weeks and put it in an incubator till full term. Win win for everyone(I would hope)
I do not believe that is a living human being in the first trimester or so. I think it is a fetus and not really much more.
Is it living? I don't know, but yeah probably.
Is it a human being? Not to me.
That is part of it.
Second major part is I believe a woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don't think you or I should be forced to give blood or an organ to save some ones life and a woman should not be forced to user her body for a fetus.
I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug? Absolutely even though it will kill someone else.
All this to say, I am male with kids and my wife nor myself would ever have an abortion. But I also believe people should have the choice for the reasons above.
Where I get a little away from it is past the first trimester, I do think there should be limits. I hope for a time in our lifetimes where medical science can take the fetus out as early as 6 weeks and put it in an incubator till full term. Win win for everyone(I would hope)
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 11:37 am
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:58 am to Tigers0918
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I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug?
This analogy only works for 1% of abortion cases like rape and incest. Your analogy includes life or death of both parties, which isn't the case here.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:09 pm to Tigers0918
quote:Does it die? Then it was living.
Is it living? I don't know, but yeah probably.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:16 pm to Tigers0918
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I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug? Absolutely even though it will kill someone else.
So you are ok with a parent mentally unplugging and letting their baby die without nurture or care?
What kind of sick f*ck are you?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:19 pm to Tigers0918
I really just wish everyone could get straight to the point and be totally honest about the debate.
One side values humanity because they believe that humans derive value from their non material and supernatural creator.
The other side believes that no human life possesses any more value than a rock. So anything goes, as long as they are comfortable during their meaningless multi decade existence.
One side values humanity because they believe that humans derive value from their non material and supernatural creator.
The other side believes that no human life possesses any more value than a rock. So anything goes, as long as they are comfortable during their meaningless multi decade existence.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:32 pm to Tigers0918
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Second major part is I believe a woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don't think you or I should be forced to give blood or an organ to save some ones life and a woman should not be forced to user her body for a fetus.
Are we going to be so disingenuous to ignore the fact that sex is literally designed for reproduction? And that any engagement in it carries the possibility of your OWN offspring forming because of it? When does personal accountability enter the picture at all?
Why are we acting like these babies are some foreign alien invader that jumps into female bodies against the host’s will?? They are the mother’s own child, created by an action they decided to engage in.
And look, I’m not saying that sex is only for reproduction purposes in society today, but it’s a biological reality that doesn’t care how you feel. We all need to take this into account and be responsible with this knowledge.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:47 pm to Tigers0918
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I could use the old analogy of say you wake up one day and you are in a hospital and are being used in some way to save another persons life. It will only take a day and both of you will be perfectly great afterwards. If you unplug yourself, that person will die. Should you be allowed to unplug? Absolutely even though it will kill someone else.
Did you wake up in the hospital because you fricked someone, knowing it could land you in the hospital?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:13 pm to Tigers0918
Why bring gay people into this nonsense? I’m gay and conservative and very heavily armed.
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