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re: Cop shoots suspect in the back of the head while struggling to arrest him grabbing taser
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:31 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So you're saying if someone who is compliant and peaceful can be a mass murderer?
No, i think you just contradicted your own argument that cops shouldn't be stopping people "one on one" for minor traffic violations. As i stated earlier, these one on one stops often prevents further crime, and in McVeigh's case, mass terror.
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You can't can't judge someone's guilt or innocence by how they behave with the police when pulled over.
If a person takes off in a sprint to evade police, rational thought would make one think that person likely has something to hide. In this goofy fricking backwards liberal world, only a leftist could think "ya know, running away from cops and resisting arrest is perfectly normal behavior".
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:31 pm to BugAC
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they need significantly more funding for better training, specifically courses like jiu jitsu and daily situational firearms training.
We are in total agreement on this point.
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The suspect's license was supposedly in the car, along with a passenger.
The cop doesn't know that.
That's at least what the suspect told the police, and then went around to the passenger's door when the passenger said they couldn't find the license.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:35 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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you want initiate a full scale investigation for every traffic stop.
Don't go wandering off into hyperbole land. I don't think that suspects flee "every traffic stop". And I don't think letting the suspect go, while calling it in, securing the evidence and questioning the passenger would be considered a "full-scale investigation" by a reasonable person in this case.
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Just don't be a dumbass when talking to cops.
I 'm not, but that didn't stop the NOPD from being complete assholes to me. BRPD, OTOH, have been nothing but respectful.
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More education is needed on both sides in my opinion.
I would add "respect" to that as well - for both sides.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:44 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I don't see running away as becoming aggressive, pursuit and tackling is.
I just have a problem with thinking, "Well, if you just do whatever the government tells you, you won't have to worry about getting shot in the head".
When I was a teenager going through a Goth phase in the late 90s I apparently made the wrong employees uncomfortable walking through a Walmart in Kosciusko, MS. I was in my brother's van getting ready to the leave the area(without ever being asked to leave the store by an employee.) I looked down to start the ignition, and looked up to see that I was surrounded by Police with weapons aimed at my head. I complied with every command, even let them search the vehicle. I was detained for several hours until the Police realized they had no grounds to detain me any further. I was released without so much as an apology for my wasted time.
I say all that to say this, comply and fight it in court if necessary. Running from the Police warrants being chased and tackled at all times. If you think that belief is wrong, then you have a problem with thinking in general.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:44 pm to BugAC
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i think you just contradicted your own argument that cops shouldn't be stopping people "one on one" for minor traffic violations.
I never said that. What I said was that a cop shouldn't pursue a fleeing suspect alone - while leaving the evidence and passenger to disappear.
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If a person takes off in a sprint to evade police, rational thought would make one think that person likely has something to hide
If the plates on the car don't match, one would suspect that the suspect has something to hide. Once the suspect flees, one can assume that they may in fear of incarceration, fear of being killed, stupid enough to think they can just get away. Fear generally triggers flight or fight response.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:41 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I would add "respect" to that as well - for both sides.
Full agreement here, but I think that's going to be hard due to the perceptions of both sides.
The "angry black man argument" against the "all cops are bad argument" is going to be a tough divide to bridge. One of the biggest problems with the whole situation is that there are too many extremist views on both sides pulling the strings, and that's not going to change until you get an unbiased media that's not out to push an agenda.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:48 pm to HeadCoach
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Is this the thread where the anti-vaxxers and Capitol rioters come to say comply or die?
The sad thing is that you think you have actually made some kind of profound point
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:06 pm to BugAC
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A lot of violent crimes against innocents are prevented because of "one-on-one apprehension". Rather than your "just call for help" approach, they need significantly more funding for better training, specifically courses like jiu jitsu and daily situational firearms training.
I disagree, I think the "more funding, more training" argument buys into bad premises. What we need is for people to behave better. We absolutely should require more civilized behavior from citizens. If that cant be done than we need more brutal police practice on those who cant behave themselves.
Its ironic that many blacks often decry America and its ideals. Its ideals are the only thing that keep the hammer from being dropped on them. In a just and practical society with no American ideals which must be followed, blacks would have an extremely short leash with police and would be subject to more surveillance and more policing of their behavior than other races of people. Criminals of all races but to a higher percentage, black criminals, have taken advantage of the social contract. We agree to share these ideals of due process, no discrimination, no excessive force, innocent before being proven guilty, etc on the condition that we respect our neighbors, respect the rule of law, and respect those who are enforcing the law.
What we have now is large groups of Americans who demand to reap the benefits of the American social contract, while at the same time not holding up their end of it.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:09 pm to lechateau
Black culture cannot coexist with civilized society. That culture needs to be torn down to the studs and completely rebuilt from the ground up.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:18 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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So, you're saying it's okay to run from the cops because like I said before, if that's okay then everyone should just do it. Screw the cops. Next time I'm speeding and get pulled over, I'll just gun it. Can't be guilty if they don't catch me. You seemed to almost be anti-government. I'm for smaller government, sure, but there has to be some authority in place to keep the ill intended at bay. Otherwise, we're all just living in chaos.
Except there have been examples of inconsistency in how police handles someone running away from them. Case in point…the guy from Ohio literally speeding off in his car with the police letting him go after the guy threatened to shoot the cop.
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:18 pm to kywildcatfanone
I have seen idiotic posts but
That there takes the cake. Streets with lights and drainage and signs and rails and signals and bridges and much more - in your universe are these things free?
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This is why they exist. Tax dollars + Fines = Salaries and pensions.
That there takes the cake. Streets with lights and drainage and signs and rails and signals and bridges and much more - in your universe are these things free?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:30 pm to c on z
We need more get away from the police programs
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:30 pm to c on z
Since you are so bright on all matters of injustice please help me to understand the mentality of two people standing by rather than aiding the cop. One or both should have tried to calm the young guy down but instead allowed his fatal behavior to continue escalating. How do you watch your driver die and never flinch, the dash cam shows him standing there like he is watching a parade even after the shot was fired!? Where is the compassion to try and help this young man see that nothing good was going to happen for him unless he stopped? He mattered to someone but not to the neighbor or the passenger.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:35 pm to 75503Tiger
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understand the mentality of two people standing by rather than aiding the cop.
You really believe it was going to end well for them if they tried to intervene?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:40 pm to c on z
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c on z
This thread needed another dumbass.
Just curious though, do you count all the times cops allow black people to resist without killing them as "inconsistency?" How about when cops kill white people? Something tells me you only care in one direction, which is just so very typical of you.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:03 pm to c on z
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You really believe it was going to end well for them if they tried to intervene?
When the bad ending is death there is ample opportunity to find the good in any other outcome, ending well is relative to a person’s viewpoint but we all can agree that this situation did not end well. This cop was amazingly composed throughout, he never pulled his weapon until he lost his taser. He’s very lucky the passenger had no intent to assist in escaping because he was vulnerable while engaged with the perp. This needed to end quickly since passenger was not interested in solving, he wanted to help his buddy sue the cops more than save him. Now he will sue for emotional distress and an Uber ride home
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:10 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Act like a thug, die like a thug. Law and Order.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:51 pm to danilo
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Act like a thug, die like a thug. Law and Order
And, we have enough already. No need to import from the Congo.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:01 pm to Fun Bunch
For now he has statues. Clock ticking… chain, meet statue… statue, meet chain..
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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would add "respect" to that as well - for both sides.
I agree with this. However it will never happen because the people who demand the most respect are the ones who are the most disrespectful.
The general attitude of these thugs is:
Show me respect while I curse you, attack you, put your life in danger and break the law, because I deserve respect! Oh, and my behavior is simply part of my culture, which you should also respect
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