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Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:27 pm to Tigerik
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His second runback that didn't score a TD but where he broke about 13 tackles of 11 defenders, was the greatest return for no TD I've ever seen.
Still the best punt return I've ever seen.
The awareness and cutbacks he had on that return, to only get tripped from behind by a fully extended defender was gutwrenching.
If he makes the endzone there, he wins the Heisman.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:45 pm to DomincDecoco
No recent bias. Find me better seasons lol
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:47 pm to LSUfan4444
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To not have Stovall in the thread is all I need to see there is no reason to read beyond post 1.
I thought his post was pretty clear that he was just ranking the players he saw personally post-1969.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:50 pm to DomincDecoco
Kerry Sauley taught us all about this concept at LSU in the 90s. He called it an "availability heuristic". Has as much more professional psychobabble ring to it than "recency bias".
For perspective though. Saints fans are having a hard time accepting that Demario Davis and Cam Jordan are the best to ever play their positions for the Saints.
Is it bias or just plain fact? It's fact. The tendency to arbitrarily allocate more weight to something/someone from the past is greater than the weight allocated via 'recency bias' as you elementarily put it.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:52 pm to tbabino
Leonard Marshall
Glenn Dorsey
AJ Duhe
Michael Brooks
Patrick Petersen
Tyrann Matheiu
Glenn Dorsey
AJ Duhe
Michael Brooks
Patrick Petersen
Tyrann Matheiu
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:56 pm to Lester Earl
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Find me better seasons lol
They can't.
Mathieu is the greatest with the best season.
Dorsey was dominant and no lineman came close to his season.
White was a beast, and it's hard to find another linebacker with his stats and his impact on opposing gameplans.
But since they are "recent", people will complain that we only see players with that bias.
Nevermind that Dorsey is from 15 years ago. Honey badger is a decade ago.
You ask who the Greatest QBs, RBs, and WRs are, you will get more players from 20-40years ago or more on those lists.
For example:
QBs
Burrow
Hodson
Tittle
Jones
Russell ( Not me. I'd put Davey or Tyler above Jamarcus)
But only one of those QBs is from this decade. Two from this century.
So frick the recency bias argument.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:01 pm to MikeTheTiger71
This is probably why Kelly decided to leave a cush job at Notre Dame and come to LSU.
Notre Dame has gritty, hard-nosed kids who play hard. LSU can get guys who look like cheat codes on the field.
Notre Dame has gritty, hard-nosed kids who play hard. LSU can get guys who look like cheat codes on the field.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:02 pm to Penrod
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Patrick Peterson. He thoroughly dominated everyone he matched up against.
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Penrod
More proof that the only thing you’re actually good at is acting like you’re more intelligent than you actually are.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:13 pm to tbabino
I started watching in '69 too, and we have had some great, great defensive players.
Leonard Marshall is another great dlineman.
We only got to see Michael Brockers for one year in 2011, but he was a man amongst boys.
But overall, it's the badger, he was a once in a lifetime player like burrow was on offense.
Leonard Marshall is another great dlineman.
We only got to see Michael Brockers for one year in 2011, but he was a man amongst boys.
But overall, it's the badger, he was a once in a lifetime player like burrow was on offense.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:35 pm to tbabino
Jack Hunt
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:36 pm to tbabino
Tommy Casanova was a 3-time First Team All-American. He is the ONLY LSU player on the 2019 Walter Camp All-Time College Football Team (BDJ and Ja'Marr should be on next addition). Casanova was a great player, BUT I would not pick him as a greater all-around defensive PLAYER than TM7.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:37 pm to ATLTiger
This man, Chad is as a beast at LSU. Not some great of a pro career but he was an animal for the tigers.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:44 pm to EulerRules
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Tommy Casanova was a 3-time First Team All-American.
And Derek Stingley,Jr. is the ONLY TRUE FRESHMAN in the HISTORY of COLLEGE FOOTBALL to be named a Consensus All-American on the DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL!
And he is a 2 time ALL-AMERICAN...would have been a 3 Time All-American had he NOT got hurt!
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:45 pm to ecb
Tommy Casanova - three time All-American, returned punts, kickoffs, and even played running back (led LSU in rushing as a freshman). Returned two punts for touchdowns in one game (vs. Ole Miss) as a junior. 6’2” 200# cornerback that ran a 9.7 and could hit. Mathieu was special, but Casanova had no weaknesses.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:47 pm to punderwood1980
quote:he played about 1.5 seasons. Look at suspensions and everything.
TM or Devin White IMO. DW was dominant in every game it seems.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:49 pm to tbabino
Michael brooks. Not even close
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:53 pm to Penrod
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Patrick Peterson. He thoroughly dominated everyone he matched up against.
False. He got owned by Mike Wallace in 2008 when LSU and Ole Miss played each other.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:04 pm to tbabino
TM no doubt but the best defensive play i seen was when Mingo chased down Oregons fastest player.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:20 pm to JodyPlauche
Two great Tigers:
TM7: 26 games, 133 tackles, 16 passes defended, 4 Int, 11 Forced Fumbles, 15 Turnovers
DS: 25 G, 73 tackles, 20 PD, 6 Int, 2 FF, 8 TO.
(I don't know who was thrown at more, gave up more yards or TD)
I like DS too, but I gotta go with TM7.
TM7: 26 games, 133 tackles, 16 passes defended, 4 Int, 11 Forced Fumbles, 15 Turnovers
DS: 25 G, 73 tackles, 20 PD, 6 Int, 2 FF, 8 TO.
(I don't know who was thrown at more, gave up more yards or TD)
I like DS too, but I gotta go with TM7.
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