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re: Coach O ran this place into the ground

Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:01 pm to
You can knock the man for lack of organization, etc. but to blame him for lack of recruiting in state talent and recruiting in general is insane!
The dudes recruiting classes are as follows:
Orgeron/LSU Kelly/ND
2017-7 10
2018-15 10
2019-5 15
2020-4 18
2021-3 9
So how is Ed Orgeron at fault for 2022 recruiting woes when our class was ranked 3rd in the country before Woodward fired him(which has been his MO since he’s been here)?!?! Oh, that’s right, we are LSU fans and we lack the ability to acknowledge that there’s always several factors involved in a situation.
The last 3 years LSU’s class rank avg was 4.0 (with 1.0 being the best), ND’s avg over the last 3 years has been 14.0.
So how exactly is the guys 10 classes behind on average the last 3 years gonna save us?!?!
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by holdatigah2019
Dallas
Member since Oct 2021
199 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

You can knock the man for lack of organization, etc. but to blame him for lack of recruiting in state talent and recruiting in general is insane! The dudes recruiting classes are as follows: 2017-7 2018-15 2019-5 2020-4 2021-3 So how is Ed Orgeron at fault for 2022 recruiting woes when our class was ranked 3rd in the country before Woodward fired him(which has been his MO since he’s been here)?!?! Oh, that’s right, we are LSU fans and we lack the ability to acknowledge that there’s always several factors involved in a situation.

Yeah good call Andy it was probably the coordinators fault. He just needs another try at it
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13252 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:03 pm to
How many guys from those recruiting classes are actually left on the team? Most have quit the team.

0 was a lazy recruiter who pretty much just star gazed. Pulled talented guys with cancerous attitudes.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54599 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

So how is Ed Orgeron at fault for 2022 recruiting woes when our class was ranked 3rd in the country before Woodward fired him(which has been his MO since he’s been here)?!?! Oh, that’s right, we are LSU fans and we lack the ability to acknowledge that there’s always several factors involved in a situation.

. His classes were like miles stacked with high end talent and neglecting the offensive line. Not to mention he couldn’t develop that talent for shite as many players have regressed a lot. O is to blame it was his program and his hires that failed. He is a joke nationally and thank god he’s gone
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5826 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:42 pm to
15th in 2019 and 18th in 2020 jumps off of the page. He was not a great recruiter in terms of an overall class or roster management. He was great at recruiting the one kid, but not a class in an organized fashion.
Posted by Superbonics
Member since Oct 2015
392 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:07 am to
Where are his recruits from those top classes? They are gone. And they are gone because of Ed O’s program and culture. Not because Ed O was fired. He could get them here, but he couldn’t keep them here.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25081 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:47 pm to
It’s almost like going 11-11 since the natty, hiring garbage coordinators, and a complete inability to run a program was undermining recruit’s interest in LSU…like we’re seeing with the class the CBK is working overtime to keep together.

O can sell ice to an Eskimo, but what he can’t sell them is a ticket on the Titanic.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
People are still trying to defend him! Wow He recruited very well but that didn’t translate into wins did it! There is more to the game of football than recruiting! Recruiting helps tremendously but without a proper coach we have seen the results first hand
Posted by Rivertiger2
Member since Dec 2020
52 posts
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:37 pm to
Recruiting rankings mean nothing. You only have to look at the last 2 years to realize this. You recruit a room full of highly rated receivers rather than recruiting lesser rated players that are of big need. OFFENSIVE LINEMEN seem to jump to the top of that list.

O read too much of his own press. He recruited to protect his reputation vs recruiting for the team’s needs. But knowing his history it should surprise no one.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68891 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:13 am to
quote:

2017-7 10
2018-15 10
2019-5 15
2020-4 18
2021-3 9



How many of these players stayed? Thats on Ed.
Posted by Chunkylover53
Right Behind You
Member since May 2008
479 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:26 pm to
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66819 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

So how is Ed Orgeron at fault for 2022 recruiting woes when our class was ranked 3rd in the country before Woodward fired him


Oh because he tanked the program so bad he had to get fired

If he just does his job and hires competent assistants than he doesn’t get fired.
Posted by Courvillicious
Denham Springs
Member since Sep 2016
31 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 4:56 pm to
You never factored in that Coach BK was dealing with an academic standard at ND that prevented him from getting the high caliber recruits that LSU is capable of getting. The fact that he was able to put together successful ND teams with the academic standards they hold there is impressive alone. Imagine what he’ll do in years to come at LSU. Try and think before you post Andrew…
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