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re: My Opinion On DC Search

Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19104 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:12 pm to
I am Ok with Jones, Baker, and Carter if BK thinks they can continue the performance level of the last 4 games.

It appears the CEO finally relinquished his 4-3 base and Deronte put them in a 3-4 or 3-3 base with pressure. Jones is an Aranda understudy and probably knows the 3man line D's better.
I thought Baker and Carter held their own.
At this point if you dont have a splash hire keep these guys and reevaluate next yr.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:16 pm to
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chavis was pretty damn good.

You’re right, I guess I just made up 3rd and Chavisin my head. 2014 had an offense that could’ve won it all matched with previous D’s. Who was the DC in 2014???
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4193 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:22 pm to
The problem with O and Jones is that it took an analyst to recommend the blitz package. That’s when the defense changed
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2954 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:23 pm to
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You’re right, I guess I just made up 3rd and Chavisin my head. 2014 had an offense that could’ve won it all matched with previous D’s. Who was the DC in 2014???


LSU was #4 in scoring defense in 2014. You might be thinking 2013 when they were #21. Still much better than the last couple of years.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

You’re right, I guess I just made up 3rd and Chavisin my head. 2014 had an offense that could’ve won it all matched with previous D’s. Who was the DC in 2014???
what I would give to have the #4 scoring defense these days.

Or the best defense in lsu history in 2011-12

Idiot
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:31 pm to
We went 8-5 that year, finished 4th in the West and 4-4 in SEC play. The games we lost we gave up: 34, 41, 20, 17, and 31 to ND.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:32 pm to
What you would give to be a part of that 8-5 season?!?!lmfao
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:34 pm to
And again to the point, if LSU DC is such a destination job then why did he bolt for A&M?!?!
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:35 pm to
God forbid that Brian Kelly make a hire of someone you're not familiar with.

If Daronte Jones really was as good as you think, he'd be fielding other offers like Corey Raymond and Mickey Joseph did. Who else is trying to take him off our staff?

I respect the fact that Jones is trying to use the bowl as an audition for the job. I think that's a lot more honorable than the way Raymond tried to jack Kelly up.

But nothing about that staff's performance this year merits retention. If Jones is really worthy of keeping, let him close Jacoby Matthew's and Denver Harris and Azareyah Thomas.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:35 pm to
Scoring Defense ranking by year...

2020 - #99
2019 - #33
2018 - #26
2017 - #14
2016 - #5
2015 - #41
2014 - #4
2013 - #21
2012 - #12
2011 - #2
2010 - #11
2009 - #11

Yeah, Chavis was horrible.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Still much better than the last couple of years.

I agree it’s been much better than the past couple of years, but again, that’s proof that the LSU DC job is not as elite and sought after as we try to convince ourselves!
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

I agree it’s been much better than the past couple of years, but again, that’s proof that the LSU DC job is not as elite and sought after as we try to convince ourselves!


Because....O

nothing more
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:37 pm to
Again, it was in response to the “LSU DC is some elite coveted job”. You can look at those numbers alone and realize it is not the dream boat job y’all are selling yourselves!
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:38 pm to
Oh wow, so you’re one of those who can single handedly blame all of their problems on a single source! Nice, must make life really easy when you never have to face reality!
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

Oh wow, so you’re one of those who can single handedly blame all of their problems on a single source! Nice, must make life really easy when you never have to face reality!



If you are asking why LSU was not able to pull big time DC's the last 2 years, the answer is unequivocally because of Ed Orgeron.

Besides the last 2 hires, when is the last time we HAVEN'T hired a successful DC? One year in 2008?
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2954 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:36 pm to
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We went 8-5 that year, finished 4th in the West and 4-4 in SEC play. The games we lost we gave up: 34, 41, 20, 17, and 31 to ND.


They also scored 0, 7 and 13 in 3 of the losses, while the defense led them to a 10-7 win over 9-4 Ole Miss. Overall they only averaged 27.6 per game and finished 76th in the nation. That’s not the great offense done in by the defense you remember. Again, that’s probably 2013 when they averaged 36 a game but lost 44-41 to Georgia, 38-17 to Bama and 27-24 to Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2954 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

And again to the point, if LSU DC is such a destination job then why did he bolt for A&M?!?!


Contract dispute. Blame that on Alleva.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 6:32 pm to
And looking back even though aranda was a great hire, the defense hasn't been as consistently strong since chavis left.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72934 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Yeah, Chavis was horrible.




i have defended him here for years with the football ignorant crowd. we have had good to great DC's here from 2000 to 2019 save for the malloveto experiment in 2008.

miles to his credit with all his faults did a fine job hiring DC's. pellini, chavis, steele and aranda.
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
2936 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

And again to the point, if LSU DC is such a destination job then why did he bolt for A&M?!?!


Less was on the green mile.
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