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re: This has to be the best way to divide the new expanded SEC with as little

Posted on 10/18/11 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 2:37 pm to
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I would really just prefer 9 conference games. Most teams play a tough OOC game anyway.


No way in Hell should we play 9 conference games. There's several reasons why we shouldn't:

1. Playing tough teams from other conferences does nothing but enhance and substantiate the elite status of the SEC (just look at the credibility LSU got when we beat Oregon and WVU and Bama over Penn St.).

2. After seeing the schedules of teams like Boise St., TCU, and Utah over the last few years and the fact that they jump to the top 10 of the BCS, I see no reason to strap the SEC teams with another bone grinder.

3. Playing in other parts of the country doesn't do anything but help ALL SEC TEAMS in recruiting wars. The 5 star players want to play for the best...and it helps when they see the real deal up close,
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 2:41 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17975 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 2:52 pm to
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It's amazing all of the things you will try to say and do just so you don't have to play Florida every year.
lolwut? you talking about LSU fans? Florida is *the* biggest rivalry game for me every year. I'm the last person who wants to lose it. 14-team conference has it's challenges, though.
Posted by BayouBlue
Austin
Member since Nov 2003
1940 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 2:59 pm to
I'm really suprised how easy it has been for Mizzou to join the SEC, they really are not the most attractive team.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
11708 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:04 pm to
Mizzou vs TN = Meth Bowl!!
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:06 pm to
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lolwut? you talking about LSU fans? Florida is *the* biggest rivalry game for me every year. I'm the last person who wants to lose it. 14-team conference has it's challenges, though.



Same here. It's one of my favorites every year.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58144 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:10 pm to
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I'm really suprised how easy it has been for Mizzou to join the SEC, they really are not the most attractive team.


6 million potential viewers for an SEC Network, AAU status, and a kick to the crotch of the formerly second best conference is why.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 3:12 pm
Posted by fiercey
Boulder, CO
Member since Sep 2011
192 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:32 pm to
I think the SEC should stay at 13 and just round-robin that mutherfricker.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

It's ridiculous to think that a kid could play at an SEC school four seasons and never play two of the teams in the SEC.


Yep. In fact, he could redshirt a year, then play four years, then graduate, then his little brother could sign, redshirt a year, play four years, then graduate, and there'd be a team in their conference that never played against either one of them.

Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Peyton Manning had three things in common:

1) they were all great football players
2) they all played in the SEC
3) none of them ever played against LSU

But by all means, Tennessee and Alabama, don't let our desire to PLAY AGAINST TEAMS IN OUR OWN frickING CONFERENCE get in the way of y'all's enjoyment of a rivalry that stopped mattering to anybody else about a decade ago.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:42 pm to
Yes.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:42 pm to
We should go to 9 conference games.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

It's amazing all of the things you will try to say and do just so you don't have to play Florida every year.


Stupid statement. We like playing Florida every year. We wouldn't like having to wait five or six years between meetings with them. We like even less having to wait 10 years between meetings with Tennessee, Georgia, etc.

Splitting up into two separate conferences who never play each other would frick up the SEC. Any real SEC fan would know that and be opposed to it. Of course, Alabama and Tennessee think they're the only two teams in the conference, so they don't give a shite.

LSU fans' hope for a decent SEC scheduling format has nothing to do with not having a rival or not wanting to play Florida, it's just disgust at the arrogance and selfishness of Alabama and Tennessee.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 3:50 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17975 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Peyton Manning had three things in common:

1) they were all great football players
2) they all played in the SEC
3) none of them ever played against LSU
just a sidenote (as someone actually in favor of staying at 8 conference games and dropping permanent opponents if required)....

If those days were here now LSU would have likely played all of them more than once, either in the regular season (Auburn) or SECCG (UGA/Tenn).
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 3:55 pm
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4288 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

It's amazing all of the things you will try to say and do just so you don't have to play Florida every year.



if you were starting a new conference w/o any rivalries, two divisions and not a round robin, the formula you would use would be a true rotation.

why? because it's the fairest formula.

if you want to preserve traditional rivalries, then do so and when the rivalry is not on rotation, play it as a non-conference game.

don't like it? don't play. i'll take a fair formula over accommodating ala/tn and aub/ga any day.
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 4:48 pm to
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Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Peyton Manning had three things in common:

1) they were all great football players
2) they all played in the SEC
3) none of them ever played against LSU

This is just bizarre. I would assume that you'd play eight of the other nine teams in the conference (before Arky and USCe) and rotate the team you don't play. Obviously you would skip a team for a rivalry game.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22841 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:29 pm to
Vandy and Mizzou to the west
Bama and AU to the east

No permanent cross division rivals

This makes the most sense.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Peyton Manning had three things in common:

1) they were all great football players
2) they all played in the SEC
3) none of them ever played against LSU


Just in case anyone thinks it was because they didn't stay their entire careers, each of them could have had 6 years of eligibility and not played LSU. BTW, 6 years is one year better than an 8 game schedule WITHOUT a perm x div game (it will take 7 years). We need a 9th game and no perm x div games.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:59 pm to
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This is just bizarre. I would assume that you'd play eight of the other nine teams in the conference (before Arky and USCe) and rotate the team you don't play. Obviously you would skip a team for a rivalry game.

During the Herschel and Bo days, we (LSU) played a 6 game sched (10 team conf) with 5 perm games (AL, FL, KT, OM and MSU). During Peyton's day, the SEC had expanded and played 8 games, but we had 2 perm x div games (KT and FL).
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:00 pm to
9 conference games will become the norm once we inevitably expand to 16 teams. Might as well get used to it now.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22470 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:01 pm to
The best solution is to go to a 9 game conference schedule, move Auburn to the East and go back to having 2 permanent opponents from the other division.

This will allow Arkansas, Texas A&M and Missouri to stay in the same division, Auburn to move to the East and bammer to keep annual games with AU and Tennessee .And then Little Nicky could stop pitching his fit and whining about losing the Tennessee game. His real fear is AU moving to the East.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3899 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 6:37 pm to
I've seen the map included on the original post on several other posts. Can someone please fix it and move Vanderbilt to the center of the state? Nashville is not in the northwest corner of Tennessee. Sorry it just bugs me.
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