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re: The next time someone says Big 12 is smarter than SEC,
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:09 pm to NonregAg09
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:09 pm to NonregAg09
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Also agree with Tiger and Frogs there.
Thanks. I occasionally have decent points to contribute to discussions... but not often, haha.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:11 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
Tigersandfrogs has good points. Texas has too many people, and WV simply doesn't.
A&M doesn't have many t-shirt fans. I'm sitting in my apartment on campus right now.
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i wonder how many of these aggie posters thumbing their noise up at other schools actually went to TAMU
A&M doesn't have many t-shirt fans. I'm sitting in my apartment on campus right now.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:18 pm to TheBloodTypo
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A&M doesn't have many t-shirt fans. I'm sitting in my apartment on campus right now.
The rest of the SEC is loaded with them and I am one since I graduated from a different university in a different conference.Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:40 am to NonregAg09
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WVU fans, we are not saying your degree is worthless or anything
Yeah, I'm happy with my education. I could've gone anywhere as a National Merit Scholar, and because I completely aced the ACT with a 36 and missed one or two questions on the SAT to score 1590 (out of 1600 back then, have heard the scoring system has since changed). I'm making six figures, so I definitely can not complain, although I did have to move out of state to accomplish that even as an engineer because WV's economy is very poor with not enough jobs and too many people wanting them. I stayed in-state for my education because my dear mom wasn't doing very well health-wise at the time and I wanted to remain close by... just a personal choice.
Anyway, I recognize that WVU is not on par academically with the Michigans and Vanderbilts of the world and probably never will be. The school does have some very good students, as indicated by our number of Rhodes Scholars, but also has far more than its fair share of stinkers.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:55 am to fiercey
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Yeah, I'm happy with my education. I could've gone anywhere as a National Merit Scholar, and because I completely aced the ACT with a 36 and missed one or two questions on the SAT to score 1590 (out of 1600 back then, have heard the scoring system has since changed). I'm making six figures
This guy needs to be on the OT
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:03 am to Big Kat
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i wonder how many of these aggie posters thumbing their noise up at other schools actually went to TAMU
Received my Bachelors in Electrical Engineering and my Commission as an Army Officer from Texas A&M in 2000.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:05 am to TIGERSandFROGS
So wait a sec:
Marshall isn't a fallback option for West Virginia instate students?
Marshall isn't a fallback option for West Virginia instate students?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:46 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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So wait a sec: Marshall isn't a fallback option for West Virginia instate students?
From what I understand, Marshall isn't bound by the same "must-accept" standards as WV, but I could be wrong on that. Either way, Marshall is far from being the school that catches all the students not worthy of WV.
Another thing is Marshall's undergrad enrollment is only 9600. West Virginia has 22,300 undergrads. Even combined they are significantly less than UT and A&M are individually. There's 1.8 million people in the entire state, compared to 25.1 million people in Texas.
Think of it from a proportion standpoint: West Virginia and Marshall have 31,900 students combined in a state of 1.8 million; Texas and Texas A&M have a combined 75,300 for a state of 25.1 million. To proportionally be educating the same caliber of students, assuming a relatively similar bell curve of intelligence (which probably isn't the case given the tech sector jobs in Texas vs industrial jobs in WV--no offense intended WV folks), WV and Marshall would be reducing combined enrollment to 6300 students. That wouldn't exactly be serving the state very well, now would it?
This is the same problem that smaller population states run into across the nation from a selectivity standpoint--the bigger states just have a huge advantage because they can create a tiered system of colleges.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:22 am to TIGERSandFROGS
Marshall is a public school, so probably so.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:45 am to smillerlsu
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Honestly, I have been REALLY surprised looking at these numbers... and pretty damned proud, too!
As you should be. LSU does well in the research department. The only thing I'll say about these research rankings is that some schools get screwed on them because they're part of state mandated university "systems" where all the resources are shared among separate schools. That's why Alabama's #s for research funding are so low. Unlike most schools, Alabama (the main campus) doesn't get to count it's medical school research funding because technically its under the UAB umbrella when for years it was the UA School of Medicine located in Birmingham instead of "UAB School of Medicine". The same with aerospace engineering NSF funds for UAH (University of Alabama-Huntsville). The University of Alabama system is considered 3 separate campuses as opposed to 1 main campus and 2 other satellite campuses. For this reason, Alabama misses out on over $400,000,000 dollars annually of NIH funding that would count in its numbers.
The UA system, like many campus systems of flagship universities in states across the country, was set up to help the state the most economically. The way the state set it up (with the system's medical school and all its funding in Bham and the main NASA/aerospace engineering at the Huntsville campus for obvious reasons) actually hurts the main campus in the research numbers game.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:51 am to Govt Tide
Agreed, and that point was noted in the AAU discussion I linked.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:04 am to StraightCashHomey21
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i wonder how many of these aggie posters thumbing their noise up at other schools actually went to TAMU
My Dad graduated from TAMU in '83 and served in the Air Force. I graduated from TAMU last December and am also in the Air Force. My little brother is a sophomore at TAMU right now studying business and walked on to the football team.
Say what you will about Texas A&M, but you're going to find most Aggie fans are either current students, former students, or have a pretty strong connection to the school.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:12 am to smillerlsu
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Agreed, and that point was noted in the AAU discussion I linked.
"All SEC schools are currently classified as RU/VH institutions with the exception of Alabama, Auburn, and Mississippi, which are all classified as RU/H. (NOTE: UA Birmingham and UA Huntsville are both considered separately from UA Tuscaloosa in the NSF study, and are both classified as RU/VH)."
I have no idea why the UA system let things evolve this way but they did. Putting the medical school in Bham was an obvious move as it makes sense to locate the med school in the state's largest metro and the aerospace engineering focus in Huntsville makes sense for obvious reasons. It would have been nice for the main UA campus to get credit for what was essentially their medical school but I guess it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Whether it's called the UA School of Medicine or the UAB School of Medicine, it's still an economic and research juggernaut benefiting the state as a whole.
FWIW, the University of Alabama's research for all campuses was $539.5 million (2009 numbers). Over $430 million of that is from UAB alone so you can see why there are some hard feelings from the main campus with the way UAB has seemingly hijacked the system's medical school and therefore NIH funding numbers from the main campus. I wish Alabama would play along with the numbers game and simply report as the University of Alabama "all campuses" as many other schools do. Having said that, it probably has to do with the system being comprised of "separate" campuses as opposed to "sattelite" campuses. It's all semantics but it sure does make a big difference in the numbers.
Excellent research btw.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:19 am to Govt Tide
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Excellent research in that linked thread btw.
Thanks! It was a very interesting exercise!
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