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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Big Kat
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:35 pm
Name programs by conference

SEC - Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee (A&M and Arkansas on precipice)

B1G - Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State (Wisconsin not far off)

Pac-12 - Is it just USC? (Colorado, Oregon best of rest?)

Big 12 - Texas & OU

ACC - Miami, FSU (VT, UNC are in that just behind category)

The B12 and P12 really need to merge. And they still would be weaker than the SEC and B1G who are obviously the strongest conferences


I put very little thought into this. Please feel free to chime in with omissions or corrections
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

he B12 and P12 really need to merge. And they still Woukd be weaker than the SEC and B1G who are obviously the strongest conferences


Not according the pollsters and computers. The Big 12 is behind the BIG to keyboard heroes only.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:41 pm to
Haha. Well there's a few good teams in the B12 this year but I was talking about program history.

Maybe that's a bad representation. I don't see Miami regaining its foothold but could see someone like Ok St remaining a good program even though they have next to no football history (Thurman and Barry but still an all time losing record)
Posted by calitiger
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
2363 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:44 pm to
I would add Oregon and Stanford to PAC-12. They are on the national scene to stay in my opinion.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:47 pm to
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B1G - Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State


Their collective past is much better than their collective future. The recruiting map I saw earlier today confirms this: LINK
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:51 pm to
Yeah, it's believed B1G football is on the decline since population growth is in the south and more athletes come from the warmer regions of the country
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

I would add Oregon and Stanford to PAC-12. They are on the national scene to stay in my opinion.




Oregon, yes. Stanford? Not so much.


Oregon's got a ton of money and exposure due to their Nike connections. As long as Nike continues to be a major player in sports, Oregon will be a major player as well.


I think Stanford's position right now is thanks to the other three programs in the state hitting a downswing at the same time, making them the go-to school for all that Cali talent.

If/when UCLA or USC returns to powerhouse status, Stanford will probably return to the mid-tier of Pac Twelve teams.
Posted by dholjes84
Morgantown, WV
Member since Sep 2011
39 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:30 pm to
This is the dumbest post I have seen on this website...

quote:

Name programs by conference

SEC - Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee (A&M and Arkansas on precipice)

B1G - Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State (Wisconsin not far off)

Pac-12 - Is it just USC? (Colorado, Oregon best of rest?)

Big 12 - Texas & OU

ACC - Miami, FSU (VT, UNC are in that just behind category)


For you to include Tennessee then you have to include Virginia Tech.

You can also go ahead and add Arkansas...A&M is on the precipice of irrelevance (One top 25 finish in the past 10 years...last top ten finish in 94?)

For you to include Penn State and not Wisconsin ruins your whole argument.

Count Oregon...to even consider Colorado as "best of the rest" without mentioning Stanford is worse than your Wisconsin snub.

I am officially done with this website.

Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:45 pm to
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ACC - Miami, FSU (VT, UNC are in that just behind category)


VT has been the face of the ACC for quite some time now.
FSU and Miami have been somewhat irrelevant for a few years. FSU may be on the way back but Miami has some rough water in front of them for a few more years.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Not according the pollsters and computers. The Big 12 is behind the BIG to keyboard heroes only


I would bet that the average poster on this site is more knowledgeable than 80% of poll voters and 100% of computers.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

For you to include Tennessee then you have to include Virginia Tech


Tennessee has a BCS championship. VT does not.

quote:

You can also go ahead and add Arkansas...A&M is on the precipice of irrelevance (One top 25 finish in the past 10 years...last top ten finish in 94?)


Arkansas and A&M's history are almost identical you dumb shite. When was Arkansas' last Top 10 finish?

quote:

For you to include Penn State and not Wisconsin ruins your whole argument. Count Oregon...to even consider Colorado as "best of the rest" without mentioning Stanford is worse than your Wisconsin snub.


Again. National championships. You have them recently (last 20 years) or you don't. Colorado does. Arkansas, A&M and Stanford don't. I was listing elite programs. The very good programs were in parenthesis.

quote:

I am officially done with this website.


well, bye.jpg
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3271 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:51 pm to
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Stanford to PAC-12. They are on the national scene to stay in my opinion.


Only if Andrew Luck can sign on for ten more years.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:58 pm to
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Only if Andrew Luck can sign on for ten more years.


Right answer.

The last time Stanford got this much attention was almost 30 years ago (1983 to be exact). They were the talk of college football. You know why?

John Albert Elway, Jr.

Sound familiar?
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 3:04 pm to
Add Luck to Tx HS QBs that went out of state
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1182 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:04 am to
Depending on what you mean by name, I think of it in terms of forward-looking national title relevance. I'd say it's more like the following:


SEC - LSU, Bama, Florida (Auburn, Georgia, and Tennessee on precipice)

B1G - Michigan, Ohio State (Nebraska maybe...someday, I guess)

Pac-12 - It is just USC (Oregon best of rest)

Big 12 - Texas & OU (Ok St, kind of, but not really)

ACC - (FSU, VT in that just behind category)

Every other conference - lol

If you mean just recognizable brand, then shoot go with Notre Dame, too. But we all know their football program is curled up into a ball behind a rest stop toilet somewhere.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5818 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:58 pm to
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Serious Lack of Balance


The BALANCE of the SEC is why no 1- or 2-loss team from any other conference will make the BCSNCG ahead of the SEC team with the same record.

Welcome to our world, BK.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5818 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

If you mean just recognizable brand, then shoot go with Notre Dame, too. But we all know their football program is curled up into a ball behind a rest stop toilet somewhere.


Where many of us would like to see it stay.
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