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Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:51 pm
https://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2011/10/26/big-12-football-more-madness-in-conference-realignment/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
and
https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15856727/oklahoma-confused-by-big-12-network-talk?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
Sure you don't want to stay, Mizzou??
and
https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15856727/oklahoma-confused-by-big-12-network-talk?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
Sure you don't want to stay, Mizzou??
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:54 pm to texasaggie08
Let me think about it...I will get back with you in the morning.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:05 pm to texasaggie08
quote:
"Just get the same contract for everybody. Everybody's equal," Pickens said. "If you'd have had that, you wouldn't have lost the [Texas A&M] Aggies, you wouldn't have lost Nebraska and Colorado and it looks like Missouri's going. But it's because things are not equal is what it is."
I grit my teeth every time I hear someone, whether affiliated with Nebraska or not, use "unequal revenue sharing" as a reason for the Cornhuskers leaving.
They were the biggest proponent of unequal revenue sharing from the very beginning.
Of course, A&M continually voted for unequal revenue sharing, too, but at least A&M didn't use that as the Numero Uno reason for leaving the Big 12, like "Doctor" Tom Osborne.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:35 pm to texashorn
quote:
Of course, A&M continually voted for unequal revenue sharing, too
This isn't accurate. We pushed for equal revenue sharing, but when Texas/OU/Neb refused we demanded an equal share to those schools. That's where the $20mil guarantee came from.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:48 pm to texasaggie08
quote:
Sure you don't want to stay, Mizzou??
Just more stuff to make you shake your head and sigh. I will laugh about it all when I hear those words "MU is leaving the Big 12 and heading to the SEC" come out of the mouth of Mr. Deaton.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:57 pm to StrickAggie06
Do you have a link for that?
That doesn't seem to make sense. For one thing, equal revenue sharing would have meant LESS money for A&M. Why would they do that?
Also consider that the $20 million you refer to came from the lesser schools giving up their rights to Colorado and Nebraska's exit fees.
Texas and Oklahoma refused that $20 million, while A&M accepted. Anything but "equal."
LINK
From that same link:
Additionally, there is this link that says that A&M voted "no" on equal revenue sharing in the last vote the conference took:
Report: UT, A&M, OU said no to equal revenue in spring
Original report:
Columbia (Mo.) Tribune
That doesn't seem to make sense. For one thing, equal revenue sharing would have meant LESS money for A&M. Why would they do that?
Also consider that the $20 million you refer to came from the lesser schools giving up their rights to Colorado and Nebraska's exit fees.
Texas and Oklahoma refused that $20 million, while A&M accepted. Anything but "equal."
LINK
From that same link:
quote:
The A&M official said Wednesday it wasn’t the school’s “concern” how the Big 12 got its money together for the revenue distribution — just that it lived up to its promise of $20 million annually, starting in 2012-13. The league’s pledge is oral, and the A&M official said the school’s lawyers are working to get the commitment in writing.
Additionally, there is this link that says that A&M voted "no" on equal revenue sharing in the last vote the conference took:
Report: UT, A&M, OU said no to equal revenue in spring
Original report:
Columbia (Mo.) Tribune
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 12:03 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:02 am to texashorn
quote:
That doesn't seem to make sense. For one thing, equal revenue sharing would have meant LESS money for A&M. Why would they do that?
Ugh. Yes, there are links. I have heard Dr. Loftin say it personally...twice. You t-sips really just can't understand what makes a conference work
It's pretty irritating
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:03 am to Big Kat
Let's see those links, then.
The links I posted in my edit above say that A&M voted "no" on equal revenue sharing in I presume the last vote taken while A&M was a voting member of the conference.
The links I posted in my edit above say that A&M voted "no" on equal revenue sharing in I presume the last vote taken while A&M was a voting member of the conference.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:05 am to texashorn
Again with the tu & OU refused the $20mil bullshite. The way it was set up, tu and OU were going to reach $20 mil anyway with TV appearances. A&M hadn't been reaching that plateau. Y'all didn't give up shite. Just made a public statement to try and spin the Ags as the bad guys and bully us into turning down a deal we agreed upon. Get that weak shite outta here.
How you still don't realize Texas is to blame for this is dumbfounding
How you still don't realize Texas is to blame for this is dumbfounding
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:07 am to texashorn
I am telling you I heard Loftin say it personally at two different events. Im on my phone and not searching. Some other Ag can help me out.
Sorry to burst your theory, bruh
Sorry to burst your theory, bruh
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:12 am to Big Kat
quote:
The way it was set up, tu and OU were going to reach $20 mil anyway with TV appearances. A&M hadn't been reaching that plateau.
And it didn't matter how the conference stole it from the other members, as long as A&M got their $20 million, right? (That's pretty much a direct quote from the A&M official in the Houston Chronicle link.)
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:19 am to texashorn
A&M had an invite to the SEC. Putting a wrench in the tu +5 to the pac12 deal along with their refusal of the LHN. So tu decided they wanted to keep the Big 12 together. They started dealing to get A&M to not go SEC.
We wanted equal revenue sharing. That was denied. So we wanted guaranteed equal with Texas and OU plus limits on the LHN.
That was all agreed to. Immediately Texas pulls the "we don't want the $20 mil" bullshite to try and bully us out of that deal. We stood firm. After that, tu tries to show multiple games on the LHN (strike 2) and HS football (strike 3).
Apparently y'all didn't think we would leave. Guess what? We did. frick y'all. Enjoy your second losing season in a row and have fun playing a home schedule of New Mexico, Iowa St, Baylor, and TCU next year. Which one of those are you pumped about spending $80 on?
We wanted equal revenue sharing. That was denied. So we wanted guaranteed equal with Texas and OU plus limits on the LHN.
That was all agreed to. Immediately Texas pulls the "we don't want the $20 mil" bullshite to try and bully us out of that deal. We stood firm. After that, tu tries to show multiple games on the LHN (strike 2) and HS football (strike 3).
Apparently y'all didn't think we would leave. Guess what? We did. frick y'all. Enjoy your second losing season in a row and have fun playing a home schedule of New Mexico, Iowa St, Baylor, and TCU next year. Which one of those are you pumped about spending $80 on?
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:21 am to texashorn
Do you bother to even read you own links and the articles they are based on?
LINK
We voted against turning over our 1st and 2nd tier media rights to the conference, NOT equal revenue sharing. We have always pushed for equal revenue sharing, as Texas and OU have continually received a disproportionate share. When we agreed to stay in the conference last summer, we demanded an equal share to that of OU and Texas, since they refused to agree to equal revenue sharing. If we were against it, why would we move to the SEC, which has equal revenue sharing?
LINK
quote:
The other members — Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech — were in favor of the move, the source said, which would have turned over their schools’ TV rights to its most attractive football and basketball games to the conference, making it virtually impossible to leave for another conference during the length of the agreement.
We voted against turning over our 1st and 2nd tier media rights to the conference, NOT equal revenue sharing. We have always pushed for equal revenue sharing, as Texas and OU have continually received a disproportionate share. When we agreed to stay in the conference last summer, we demanded an equal share to that of OU and Texas, since they refused to agree to equal revenue sharing. If we were against it, why would we move to the SEC, which has equal revenue sharing?
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 12:23 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:25 am to texashorn
From my buddy Jorts on TexAgs. The chronological history of tsip spin of Ags to the SEC
quote:
Lulz. SEC? They'll never take aiggy. You never had a stand alone offer.
Poor agiggy. Thought they could leave and had no offer.
A 14th team is required, or you're not going
We hope you do go Adios, mofos
We didn't hire Buddy Jones and Hillco. Baylor did.
We don't care enough about you. You're not a rival.
We'll get Notre Dame to play us on Thanksgiving
We'll get BYU to play us on Thanksgiving.
The LHN will showcase recruits' games. NCAA never said we can't.
We'll play Texas State on Thanksgiving.
This is just how negotiations on these network deals go. They'll give in before the Rice game and pay us.
We'll show recruit's highlights on the network. We do as we please.
We'll play Panola College on Thanksgiving.
Aggiy is ruining century old rivalries and running like cowards since they couldn't win in Big XII.
No, you're cowards. We don't want to play you. Because you're scared cowards.
Cincinnati and utep open up big tv markets in Juarez and Dayton.
We're not playing you because you're so scared of real competition, you left to play Alabama, LSU, auburn and Florida.
We're all full into 2018 even though those schedules aren't posted anywhere. We honor our commitments unlike you. June jones, please keep quiet.
We're glad you're gone. You don't see us rushing to Texags. We don't care about you.
We'll play the Idaho School of Conservative Masturbatory Skills on Thanksgiving.
You should have taken your 20% of the network when it was offered to you. It's 66 million in the red right now, but it's now offering lineup changes before everyone else
Sayonara. Glad you're gone.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:35 am to StrickAggie06
quote:
We voted against turning over our 1st and 2nd tier media rights to the conference, NOT equal revenue sharing.
That's what "equal revenue sharing" is, you dolt. The conference gets the money and distributes it to its members.
Look further down the same story:
quote:
When Nebraska left the Big 12 for the Big Ten last year, school officials rallied around the Big 12’s failure to grant its media rights as a reason for their departure — though for years Nebraska opposed equal revenue-sharing in the Big 12, a separate topic of dissension among Big 12 members. In June 2010, shortly before the Huskers joined the Big Ten, Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman cited media rights when the Big 12 asked for Nebraska’s commitment to the conference.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:41 am to Big Kat
quote:
From my buddy Jorts on TexAgs. The chronological history of tsip spin of Ags to the SEC
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:05 am to texashorn
Let's reexamine that quote, you whorn moron:
See, equal revenue sharing = separate topic from granting media rights. In other words, turning over Tier1 and Tier2 media rights is NOT THE SAME THING as equal revenue sharing. Just so you know, proper reading comprehension is useful life skill.
Turning over rights = the conference owns your rights through a certain date, and if you leave the conference it would receive your future TV revenue up to that date instead of you.
Equal revenue sharing = each conference member receives an equal share of conference revenue.
If this had been approved, conference members would have turned over their rights, but unequal revenue sharing would still be in place, as Texas and OU still would have received more than everyone else.
Stupid whorns are stupid.
quote:
When Nebraska left the Big 12 for the Big Ten last year, school officials rallied around the Big 12’s failure to grant its media rights as a reason for their departure — though for years Nebraska opposed equal revenue-sharing in the Big 12, a separate topic of dissension among Big 12 members. In June 2010, shortly before the Huskers joined the Big Ten, Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman cited media rights when the Big 12 asked for Nebraska’s commitment to the conference.
See, equal revenue sharing = separate topic from granting media rights. In other words, turning over Tier1 and Tier2 media rights is NOT THE SAME THING as equal revenue sharing. Just so you know, proper reading comprehension is useful life skill.
Turning over rights = the conference owns your rights through a certain date, and if you leave the conference it would receive your future TV revenue up to that date instead of you.
Equal revenue sharing = each conference member receives an equal share of conference revenue.
If this had been approved, conference members would have turned over their rights, but unequal revenue sharing would still be in place, as Texas and OU still would have received more than everyone else.
Stupid whorns are stupid.
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 1:09 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:08 am to texasaggie08
Is it any wonder that fans of the schools in the B-12 just can't understand the S-E-C chant?
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:25 am to StrickAggie06
Not really.
Look at the headline of the stories: Texas, OU and A&M block revenue sharing.
Here's another one:
OU, UT, TAMU blocked Big 12 revenue sharing
I still have yet to see a link to where A&M voted for equal revenue sharing in the Big 12 Conference.
Look at the headline of the stories: Texas, OU and A&M block revenue sharing.
Here's another one:
quote:
The issue of equal revenue sharing in the Big 12 was shot down by three schools earlier this year, two sources told CBSSports.com. Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M were against granting first- and second-tier media rights according to the sources.
OU, UT, TAMU blocked Big 12 revenue sharing
I still have yet to see a link to where A&M voted for equal revenue sharing in the Big 12 Conference.
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